Here we go (obama on gun control on fox right now)

[hollohas]

This press conference was EXACTLY what I expected it to be. In the sense that there was no major attack on the 2nd...just secretive groundwork being laid and appeasements being made to middle of the road types.

[tmleadr03]

Whole lot of nothing.

[Marlin]

Somewhere in hell, Hitler is crying tears of joy that his star student is learning so well.

[Mtn.man]

You dr won't directly ask you. It will be on some form you have to fill out.

It is PRIVATE information. Check NOYFB.

[waxthis]

Perhaps we should all CC our weapon in our chocolate starfishe's next time we visit the doc.......

[Dave]

He basically said Congress are a bunch of baby killers if they dont.

He pretty much called us baby killer supporters anyways. This was like a few others said, a photo op with him and kids and this way when conservatives in congress don't pass what he wants he gets to blame them. Biggest problem with mental health cases that I see is the bureaucracy for getting off if you are on there mistakenly or you are deemed better after treatments. Like other gov't lists it will be easy to get on the bad list, but near impossible to get off of it without a lawyer. Or military and vets who like me and I know more than a few others here that have been to Iraq and Afghanistan that get labeled PTSD by a military or VA doctor. They would likely get hosed trying to get VA to take them off the list.

[sellersm]

Here's the whole thing in a document: http://www.scribd.com/doc/120649771/...F-GUN-PROPOSAL

[MED]

They are setting this up as a campaign issue in 2014. They hope to gain as many moderate votes as possible from soccer moms and their whimp husbands as possible. The terms they are using strike nerves with these people, and trying to redirect and educate the public will be difficult. There will be considerable pressure put on our congressmen and senators from both sides over the next two years.

The problem now is the Colorado State Legislature...they have the votes in both houses to pass AWB and Magazine Capacity Limits.

WE HAVE A HUGE FIGHT ON OUR HANDS!!!

Obama is one first class pussy; nice of him to make the VP's face the target of gun grabbing in the White House. I have my thoughts on this but I will keep them to myself.

[sellersm]

It is PRIVATE information. Check NOYFB.

see my previous post about #2 in the list of proposals, and how it relates to #16.... He doesn't want it private any longer.

[sellersm]

Somewhere in hell, Hitler is crying tears of joy that his star student is learning so well.

Exactly!