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    Default Summary of Obama's Recommended Legislative Actions

    1. Require criminal background checks for all gun sales. (a.k.a. closing the "gun show loophole.")
    2. Reinstate and strengthen the assault weapons ban.
    3. Restore the 10-round limit on ammunition magazines.
    4. Protect police by finishing the job of getting rid of armor-piercing bullets.
    5. Give law enforcement additional tools to prevent and prosecute gun crime.
    6. End the freeze on gun violence research.
    7. Make our schools safer with more school resource officers and school counselors, safer climates, and better emergency response plans.
    8. Help ensure that young people get the mental health treatment they need.
    9. Ensure health insurance plans cover mental health benefits.
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    1 might pass, 4 is iffy, 5 is vague, 6 has already been done via EO, 7 will probably pass, as will 8 or and 9.

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    The one item I do not understand is a revised definition of an "assault" weapon. The Feinstein bill supposedly uses one "feature" rather than two features in the '94-'04 AWB.
    Bayonet lug and flash hiders supposedly are not features considered, so, what is being considered?

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    5 is "gun registration".
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    whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the "pistol grip" of which "protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon," the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any "grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip." Also, the new bill adds "forward grip" to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as "a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip." Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California's highly restrictive ban.

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    Default Summary of Obama's Recommended Legislative Actions

    Quote Originally Posted by 10x View Post
    The one item I do not understand is a revised definition of an "assault" weapon. The Feinstein bill supposedly uses one "feature" rather than two features in the '94-'04 AWB.
    Bayonet lug and flash hiders supposedly are not features considered, so, what is being considered?
    Probably "the ability to accept a detachable magazine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10x View Post
    The one item I do not understand is a revised definition of an "assault" weapon. The Feinstein bill supposedly uses one "feature" rather than two features in the '94-'04 AWB.
    Bayonet lug and flash hiders supposedly are not features considered, so, what is being considered?
    I would venture a guess (and JUST a guess) at :

    • Forward Grip
    • Pistol Grip (or equivilent aka Thumb-hole stock)
    • Collapable or Folding Stock
    • Grenade Launcher (Muzzled launched Rifle grenades)
    • Detachable Magazine (Shotgun)
    • A list of an "Evil" weapons they know of and want banned.
    • Fixed magazine > 10 rounds (Feinstein's Bill)


    • Most likely Federal registration of all grandfathered weapons that meet the above.


    And any "mistakes" or "loopholes" in the old bill will be plugged and fixed.
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    http://phelps.donotremove.net/2013/0...cutive-orders/

    So Obama released his Executive Orders to Prevent Maniacs From Being Maniacs today. I’ve taken the time to translate the summaries into plain English below:
    1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
    Tell the government to follow the law.
    2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
    Tell the regulators to stop the stupid and useless regulations.
    3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
    Pay the states back for the unfunded mandates that the Feds keeps making.
    4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
    Tell the Attorney General to do his job.
    5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
    Start another unfunded mandate. (See #3.)
    6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
    Tell FDLs how to do something no one is ever going to bother to do.
    7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
    Do the same thing the NRA already does, only half as well at twice the cost.
    8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
    Do what Underwriters Laboratories already does, only half as well at twice the cost.
    9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
    Tell the Feds to do their jobs.
    10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
    Tell the DOJ to do its job.
    11. Nominate an ATF director.
    Tell myself to do my job.
    12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
    Spend more money.
    13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
    Tell everyone to do their goddamned jobs.
    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
    Tell the doctors to figure out why it isn’t the feds’ fault that they aren’t doing their jobs.
    15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
    Figure out a way to push “smart guns” that don’t exist and wouldn’t be useful as guns if they did.
    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
    Tell everyone that Obamacare doesn’t actually mean what it says.
    17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
    Tell everyone that, seriously, Obamacare doesn’t actually mean that. We had to pass it to find out what was in it, after all.
    18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
    Tell everyone that I’ve been a partisan hack for the last month every time I said the NRA was crazy to want to post more cops in schools.
    19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
    Do the same thing that every police agency in the country has already done, only half as well and at ten times the cost.
    20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
    Tell doctors what they already know.
    21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
    Tell people what the parts of Obamacare that don’t say anything say.
    22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
    Tell HHS to do their job.
    23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
    Hand the rest of the job of telling everyone to do their jobs off to someone else so it is no longer my job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    http://phelps.donotremove.net/2013/0...cutive-orders/

    So Obama released his Executive Orders to Prevent Maniacs From Being Maniacs today. I’ve taken the time to translate the summaries into plain English below:
    ***SNIP***


    Pretty much exactly as I read it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    http://phelps.donotremove.net/2013/0...cutive-orders/

    So Obama released his Executive Orders to Prevent Maniacs From Being Maniacs today. I’ve taken the time to translate the summaries into plain English below:
    2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
    Tell the regulators to stop the stupid and useless regulations.
    Not that I really believe we have any semblance of privacy any more, but what he was hoping here was to do away with any barrier the .gov might have to accessing your medical records.

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