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    What Law Enforcement Officer has to deal HIPA. Anything to do with a convict is public record. A felon losses and should not have confidential rights...

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    We have to deal with HIPAA all the time. Victims get injured and we can't get a doc to talk to us about their injuries due to their misunderstanding of HIPAA. Some charges are dependent upon the severity of the injury. I carry forms which specifically state the law and I fill out what I am asking for and how it isn't protected information under the law and still get pushback from the docs. In some cases, they won't even confirm if a victim is in their hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melvin View Post
    Imagine you're an 18 year old kid who just caught with his pants down. I am sure you would be telling the a--hole anything to avoid being written up at best. And the a--hole in the uniform knows this and is getting his jollies by using the uniform to intimidate and get you to volunteer stuff out of fear. If you think that doesn't happen every minute across this country you probably also think there are great deals on beach front property in Nebraska.
    Pants down on public property? Criminal violation, albeit minor, if you fail to cooperate, you will likely get your ride to the station and a summons and release. Yes, that will go on your record, so don't pull your pants down in public.

    On private property? Depends on what the relationship of the property owner is with local LE. Perhaps the local business has expressed permission and a desire that local LE monitor and protect the property from illegal usage, such as teenagers getting a quickie. See above.

    Most cops do not have time to run around and get their jollies by intimidating teenagers. Some cops thrive on intimidating citizens. We call those "bad cops" and you should report their behavior to their superiors, elected officials and the news media.

    I'm still not able to determine what was the relationship with the cop to the business owner who fired your friend. If they bowl together on the same league and the incident came up during a game, your friend is pretty much out of luck. If the business owner lived two jurisdictions away and the cop went out of his way to pass along the information, and your friend can prove all of that, he might get some attention to the matter.

    Was the job really worth it to your friend? It sounds like your friend doesn't really respect his employer (and maybe he has a right to disrespect the employer). As it was pointed out above, the business owner didn't really need a reason to fire your friend. Is it possible there was another, unstated, reason your friend could have been fired?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melvin View Post
    Actually 2 kids having a quickie.(I am not one of the kids) Neither related to employer. Like I said employer has a holier than thou attitude, but admitted to talking with LEO at length. Damn sure employer didn't seek the conversation. Isn't a busy body just thinks sex is for procreation between married folk.
    The employer has violated Colorado law. Colorado provides that termination based on off duty conduct unrelated to the job is illegal.
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    CRS 24-34-402.5 (2004)

    Makes it illegal for an employer to terminate an employee because that employee engaged in any lawful activity off the employer's premises during nonworking hours unless the restriction
    1) relates to a bona fide occupational requirement or is reasonably and rationally related to the employment activities and responsibilities of a particular employee or a particular group of employees; or
    2) is necessary to avoid, or avoid the appearance of, a conflict of interest with any of the employee's responsibilities to the employer.

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    Short answer: wrongful termination.

    Long answer: for a job that an 18-year old would have, is it worth fighting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melvin View Post
    Imagine you're an 18 year old kid who just caught with his pants down. I am sure you would be telling the a--hole anything to avoid being written up at best. And the a--hole in the uniform knows this and is getting his jollies by using the uniform to intimidate and get you to volunteer stuff out of fear. If you think that doesn't happen every minute across this country you probably also think there are great deals on beach front property in Nebraska.
    Sign your ticket, tell the police officer to have a nice evening. If you think he was "intimidating" you, file a formal complaint and fight the ticket in court. Arguing with a police officer is quite pointless, similar to arguing with a lib-tard, won't achieve anything except get yourself in a deeper hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spqrzilla View Post
    The employer has violated Colorado law. Colorado provides that termination based on off duty conduct unrelated to the job is illegal.
    Wrong. His employment was terminated 'at will' of his employer. No reason given, nor is there a requirement beyond you're fired. We are an 'at will' state. No reason need be given to quit or be terminated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Wrong. His employment was terminated 'at will' of his employer. No reason given, nor is there a requirement beyond you're fired. We are an 'at will' state. No reason need be given to quit or be terminated

    - sent by the free-range electronic weasel attached to my hip.
    Not necessarily true. If he terminated him without giving a reason, then you are correct. However, if he terminated him and told him it was due to his shennanigans while not at work, then he was wrongfully terminated. It may ssoind like splitting hairs, but there is an important legal issue in it.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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