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    Good points machine gunner, however by resigning they can be hired again in law enforcement. Fired is a no go. They will deal with the charges and move on. Doubt if they get jail time. Jails are full and money is tight. I'm still betting on fines from the dow and loss of hunting, maybe for life. Misd probation on the balance. Working in law enforcement within 2 years.

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    Good points machine gunner, however by resigning they can be hired again in law enforcement. Fired is a no go. They will deal with the charges and move on. Doubt if they get jail time. Jails are full and money is tight. I'm still betting on fines from the dow and loss of hunting, maybe for life. Misd probation on the balance. Working in law enforcement within 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigun1962 View Post
    Good points machine gunner, however by resigning they can be hired again in law enforcement. Fired is a no go. They will deal with the charges and move on. Doubt if they get jail time. Jails are full and money is tight. I'm still betting on fines from the dow and loss of hunting, maybe for life. Misd probation on the balance. Working in law enforcement within 2 years.
    I think you are referring to me, but you have the wrong name.

    Neither will work in law enforcement again. There isn't a chief or sheriff who would touch either one of these guys with their poor decision making, especially given the publicity involved. The DA won't dismiss the three felony charges to have them plead to one of the several misdeanor charges. I can't speculate on any jail time, but I would tend to agree they will get probation in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    I think you are referring to me, but you have the wrong name.
    Looks like. Paper Hunter didn't pick the right name.

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    Good one, Ah Pook!

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    Good one, Ah Pook!

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    As has been mentioned above, there isn't anything else you can do to these two.

    The charges will go on their criminal history, which means that no police agency can hire them without seeing those charges. Sure - like everybody else in America, they will probably take plea deals to non-felony charges, which I guess would make them hire-able, but the chief that hires two officers this stupid deserves the publicity backlash that would erupt.

    As far as taking away their pension, and assuming Boulder PD has PERA, what has been said above is correct - if they've been in for five years or more, they'll get a small - very small - trickle of money when they retire. It really isn't any different than putting money in any other kind of investment account, except that PERA substitutes for SSN contributions. That's money they earned and saved, and they shouldn't lose it, unless you believe that a private citizen should have his SSN payments reduced after retirement for crimes committed while he was working.

    I know that cops need to be held accountable to a higher standard, and they are - most people here could "accidentally" shoot an elk and keep their jobs. Sure, you'd end up in the newspaper, but that is for poaching a popular urban elk - that would happen to anybody.

    Long story short, these two idiots will have their day in court. They're jobless and shamed. I don't know what else you would want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Fowler View Post

    As far as taking away their pension, and assuming Boulder PD has PERA, what has been said above is correct - if they've been in for five years or more, they'll get a small - very small - trickle of money when they retire. It really isn't any different than putting money in any other kind of investment account, except that PERA substitutes for SSN contributions. That's money they earned and saved,
    wrong.

    They're jobless and shamed. I don't know what else you would want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Fowler View Post
    As has been mentioned above, there isn't anything else you can do to these two.

    The charges will go on their criminal history, which means that no police agency can hire them without seeing those charges. Sure - like everybody else in America, they will probably take plea deals to non-felony charges, which I guess would make them hire-able, but the chief that hires two officers this stupid deserves the publicity backlash that would erupt.

    As far as taking away their pension, and assuming Boulder PD has PERA, what has been said above is correct - if they've been in for five years or more, they'll get a small - very small - trickle of money when they retire. It really isn't any different than putting money in any other kind of investment account, except that PERA substitutes for SSN contributions. That's money they earned and saved, and they shouldn't lose it, unless you believe that a private citizen should have his SSN payments reduced after retirement for crimes committed while he was working.

    I know that cops need to be held accountable to a higher standard, and they are - most people here could "accidentally" shoot an elk and keep their jobs. Sure, you'd end up in the newspaper, but that is for poaching a popular urban elk - that would happen to anybody.

    Long story short, these two idiots will have their day in court. They're jobless and shamed. I don't know what else you would want.
    agree 100%. I have a feeling a few just want to see them hung because of their disdain for police in general.

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    Well then, put it out there. What would you have done? Don't just hide behind emoticons, say it out loud.

    If you got convicted of a crime, would you deserve to have your social security revoked? Why should they face anything worse than termination and criminal sanctions?
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