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    I once told an employee, "If you can't negotiate for your own salary, what can I expect when you are negotiating on my behalf?"

    If you want something, best have your data ready, feelings don't matter.
    Best know what is possible, can't get blood from a turnip.
    Better be willing to walk away from the deal if you put it on the table, idol threats will not help. If you suggest you will look elsewhere then they will replace you regardless of the outcome of the negotiation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
    I once told an employee, "If you can't negotiate for your own salary, what can I expect when you are negotiating on my behalf?"

    If you want something, best have your data ready, feelings don't matter.
    Best know what is possible, can't get blood from a turnip.
    Better be willing to walk away from the deal if you put it on the table, idol threats will not help. If you suggest you will look elsewhere then they will replace you regardless of the outcome of the negotiation.
    Data is ready, paid for it but if I get any extra money it'll be worth it.

    Im not going to make any threats, idle or not. I like working there but I can't leave a full 7k on the table so I will quietly start looking if they don't come up.

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    Do you have facial hair? Where I work hard work doesnt mean shit! If you want the big whopping 3% you gotta smooch some chocolate starfish. And they tend to like the tickle of facial hair. I think with most companies anymore its who you blow not how good you are. Man 3k that would rock!!! That would almost put me at the poverty level.

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    The norm is 2-3%, and that was 5 years ago. I'd be happy with 0% as long as i still have a job
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogman2121 View Post
    If anyone has some good tips I'm all ears.
    If you earn it, you won't have to sell the justification thereof. No company wants to lose good talent.

    -But I suspect you knew that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    With all due respect, the vast majority of what you said will fall on deaf ears.

    In today's economy, the guy at the top is getting less, so it is less likely he/they will offer you more. Passing tests, have certificaitons and qualificaitons and such means ZILCH, if you are not producing!

    Being in finance, you should know it is the $ that talks and not much else. You have to come up with a way to emphasize how you uniquely brought in more revenue. If you did not bring in more revenue in 2012 than 2011, then how can you ask for a raise?

    It is really all about the $. I let PM's run my projects and if I have a fatter bottom line I cut checks! If your making the company $$, your making $$$ and it's demonstrated in the bonus. Show em the numbers and how much more they made this year over last because of you and it should be a no brainer..... Good Luck!

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    Default Re: How to validate a raise?

    Must be nice to get raises........

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    In this economy, be thankful you have a job. Right now I'm making half of what I was earning 2 years ago. Hearing someone whining about "only" getting an extra 3K raise when they think they deserve 7K is a new experience for me. I'm guessing you probably wear a tie.

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    Fucking piece of shit private sector workers. Always getting a raise and for what? Doing your job? You need to find some balls and work for the .Gov so ya know what it would feel like to have your net check decrease by $280 per month over the last three years. .......

    By the way there is sarcasm (and some truth) in there. Some will get it due to past threads.
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    Where is HighClassWhiteTrash to blame the Unions?
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