Can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic...Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck
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Can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic...
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that - George Carlin
My money says he's serious. Sumbitch ain't no American, that's for sure.
Loyalty, Patriotism and Ethics are long gone when it comes how people choose to live, much less their purchasing decisions. The VAST majority of people, Americans included, do what they "feel" is best for them. Yes, it is often selfish, short sighted and hollow, but that is the Amreica we now live in.
If I can, I buy products from US companies, with US workers with US sourced materials. If I can buy from a Colorado company, all the better. When we started Carbon Arms, we had some tough decisions to make. But, everything we produce is US made by US citizens with US materials. It costs more, but that is how we roll.
I do that when I can -- or at least try to avoid buying from Commie countries (yes, I refuse to buy Russian or Chinese ammo or guns) -- but it's often difficult even when you're willing to pay more. I've found a good source for dress shoes for work -- and it really doesn't cost much more than buying Chicom-made shoes at Macy's or Dillard's or what have you -- but try to find quality tents or backpacks made in the U.S. It's often hard to find stuff made in the US even if you were willing to give a little up on quality.
Stossel is against "Buy Local" as he thinks buying the best-made or least expensive puts pressure on local manufacturers to up their game and I agree with him to a point but I'm still willing to pay a little more for equal quality made locally versus Chicom slave labor. A lot of times it really comes down to the specific product(s) and manufacturing practices as I'd rather not subsidize the AFL-CIO's destruction of the American economy either.
There is no incentive for those companies on the bottom to improve their price and/or product if their company can stay afloat because of people buying with their heart and not using reason in their decision making process. The same reason we continue to see more Americans taking handouts, there is no incentive to be self-supporting when the gov't gives able bodied persons things they could otherwise work for. American companies are entitiled to NOTHING, they need to be competitive if they want to survive. If in the long run if that means American's standard of living has to go down than so be it.
Incentive, oh yes there is. At the end, all you have is your word and your integrity. I do it because it is right and that is how I want my kids to live too. There is no such thing as a man on an island. Everytihng we do and say has a consequence. Most are just so self involved they can't see the repercussions.
This is what I don't understand about you. In the thread yesterday, you said you were a union worker here in the US. It would seem then that your alliance would be with the worker that lives in here America. While GM and Ford, and now more increasingly Chrysler (which can you even say is an American car company anymore?) outsource their production around the world, costing American jobs, yet you have loyalty to the emblem on the car, regardless of where it was made. The management decided to move production outside our borders, but you still consider a Mexican made truck with the letters GMC on it to be an American product and you still have allegiance to the company that outsourced American jobs.
Enter the foreign owned companies. The create jobs here within the U.S. But somehow you don't think this is a benefit to the United States, and you can't conceive that a Camry, Accord, or Outback are more American than that Mexican GMC Sierra.
Does it really matter where the money to the parent company goes to the man building a Subaru in Indiana? No, it matters that he's at work, building a product that GM decided it would be better to build in Mexico.
Or, is your problem, as you've described yourself as a union member, a dislike that the foreign companies pay a decent wage to the American worker while producing a superior product without union labor in most instances?
Last edited by funkymonkey1111; 01-22-2013 at 12:27.
Buying American is it really worth it?
I'm sure that's probably correct good pr move by Toyota advertise "most American content and labor" while still sending profits back to Japan, It probably is good economic sense for them using our raw materials and labor and get to keep profits for themselves. Also I never have disputed they're overall quality probably started the culture it is "ok" to buy foreign I just think ford gm and Chrysler have caught up and if we quit buying Toyotas and Kia etc, we would need more Chevys and fords
I agree Aloha_Shooter.
Car Batteries for instance...I only buy US Made Spirocell designs...better quality, twice the price, no kids in India died in the making of my battery.
List the American-made brands for the rest of us. Is Optima (expensive) one of them? How about the ones you get at Autozone (Duralast)?
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