Buying American is it really worth it?

[griebel303]

Hell yeah! I need that. I am sure I can get the wife's buy in....

[ChunkyMonkey]

i can guarantee that wont fit 6 car seats. just because they say they seat 8 doesnt mean you can get that many car seats in it. plus , we arent done.


we know alot of big families and they have tried every jap and American car trying to fit that many car seats in. Alot of them dont want to go to a full size Van.

LOL.. what's your goal? You better start building extra ARs for the incoming

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[Melvin]

I love my Filson clothing. I love my Jeeps. I love my Dogfish Head 120min IPAs. I love my Kimbers. I love my Texas BBQ. I hate H D noise buckets.

[kidicarus13]

I will never buy a vehicle based on sympathy or patriotism. I will always buy based on what best fits my current needs.

[MarkCO]

Loyalty, Patriotism and Ethics are long gone when it comes how people choose to live, much less their purchasing decisions. The VAST majority of people, Americans included, do what they "feel" is best for them. Yes, it is often selfish, short sighted and hollow, but that is the Amreica we now live in.

If I can, I buy products from US companies, with US workers with US sourced materials. If I can buy from a Colorado company, all the better. When we started Carbon Arms, we had some tough decisions to make. But, everything we produce is US made by US citizens with US materials. It costs more, but that is how we roll.

[funkymonkey1111]

I am no longer allowed to comment on the Jeep vs Toyota thread, I guess I might of gotten off subject or something. Anyway I would like a to debate the merits or not of buying American made (if possible) vs Foreign made, I would like to keep it respectful and just learn if I'm wrong about the way I think. I just think it would be better in the long run if we would buy American made cars from American based companies (for the record I think it is BS that the big three have Mexican and Canadian assembly plants) I just can't understand the loyalty to Japanese and Korean cars. I understand I could be wrong and don't know global economics that's why I am asking

This is what I don't understand about you. In the thread yesterday, you said you were a union worker here in the US. It would seem then that your alliance would be with the worker that lives in here America. While GM and Ford, and now more increasingly Chrysler (which can you even say is an American car company anymore?) outsource their production around the world, costing American jobs, yet you have loyalty to the emblem on the car, regardless of where it was made. The management decided to move production outside our borders, but you still consider a Mexican made truck with the letters GMC on it to be an American product and you still have allegiance to the company that outsourced American jobs.

Enter the foreign owned companies. The create jobs here within the U.S. But somehow you don't think this is a benefit to the United States, and you can't conceive that a Camry, Accord, or Outback are more American than that Mexican GMC Sierra.

Does it really matter where the money to the parent company goes to the man building a Subaru in Indiana? No, it matters that he's at work, building a product that GM decided it would be better to build in Mexico.

Or, is your problem, as you've described yourself as a union member, a dislike that the foreign companies pay a decent wage to the American worker while producing a superior product without union labor in most instances?

[Aloha_Shooter]

i can guarantee that wont fit 6 car seats. just because they say they seat 8 doesnt mean you can get that many car seats in it. plus , we arent done.


we know alot of big families and they have tried every jap and American car trying to fit that many car seats in. Alot of them dont want to go to a full size Van.

Yeah, it doesn't work if you're talking about car seats. I can take 7 passengers in my Expedition EL (and do) as long as the 2 of the 3 in the back row are really small or skinny but I think you could only get 2 car seats in that row. I know it gets cramped in there when I'm ferrying 7 passengers but that's not my problem.

Kind of amazing to think you've got six all at the age of needing car seats though ... the wife must be a saint!

[PugnacAutMortem]

I've been Jeep guy for the last 15 or so years - owned nothing else. Now they are going to made in China?

I've had great luck with the good old Cherokees, a ZJ Grand and my 99 TJ that I still drive daily. The WJ's...not so much. Basically, every one that I've owned that had the 6 cyl. in it just ran and ran. The V8 can suck it.

I had that 4.0L High Output engine in my Cherokee...that's one of the best engines ever invented. Easy to work on and damn near bulletproof. I miss my Cherokee...

[Haroldlutsen]

The most "Made In America" automobile is the Toyota Camry. It has more American components and and the most American labor of any current vehicle...

I'm sure that's probably correct good pr move by Toyota advertise "most American content and labor" while still sending profits back to Japan, It probably is good economic sense for them using our raw materials and labor and get to keep profits for themselves. Also I never have disputed they're overall quality probably started the culture it is "ok" to buy foreign I just think ford gm and Chrysler have caught up and if we quit buying Toyotas and Kia etc, we would need more Chevys and fords