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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    So, let's quit picking on the guy, and answer the questions I posed earlier (above)... What are we going to do to begin to turn the tide?
    Open carry.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    So, let's quit picking on the guy, and answer the questions I posed earlier (above)... What are we going to do to begin to turn the tide?
    nothing, thats the problem. the only way to convince people is to educate them on guns, but they have to do that one their own. i have several used to be anti gun friends and family, that once i took them shooting, showed them how to handle a gun, the safeties, etc they are now pro gun. its going to take a looooong time to do that for everyone. on top of that we have to appear like normal, sane, common sense types of people, otherwise people just take what the media says (that we are deranged hicks who are only into conspiracy theories) and couple that with our actions that reflect it and boom, we lose. if everyone appears like normal people who are perfectly rational, for a lot of ignorant people they will realize the rhetoric doesn't match reality. unfortunately, actions like these aren't understood by the general populace and only furthers the lefts agenda. sure, WE can all sit here and understand it and point to his right to do so, but 80% of the population will think its a poor choice and the media will work it into their narrative flawlessly.

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    I Agree completely, we should concede the right to OC entirely and skulk around in the shadows.
    Making something Commonplace has NEVER Work for desensitization.


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    Poor judgement on the kids behalf. There's a time and place to open carry and particularly what you are carrying. Scaring the public like that isn't going to help the cause regardless if said person was within exercising his/her rights.
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    You know, when I was growing up outside of Chicago a LONG time ago, we used to carry rifles from our homes into the woods, and nobody cared. It was considered normal. Later when I was in HS and College in WI, we had 30/30's hanging in the back of our Pickup truck windows, IN THE SCHOOL's Parking lot!

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    Responsible people are safe with Guns

    Get a grip.

    The kid has EVERY right to carry openly.

    Quit being pussified by our culture.

    OPEN carry is legal in this State.

    If you don't like it, move back to CA

    Would you feel safer in a gun free zone????

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    you can validate it in any way you see fit, no one here is going to argue it was his right, but for those of us in reality the truth of the matter is we are this close to losing a lot of our rights as it pertains to firearms. doing things like this, which everyone and their brother knows is for publicity and to show you can do it, only furthers the agenda of our enemies. fact is, the majority of non-gun owners aren't anti gun loons, but they won't understand a stunt like this and it will turn them further against us. we need their support to keep the rights the nuts want to take. you don't have to like it, i sure as hell don't, but thats the truth. we need everyone to be exercising common sense at a time like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demodave View Post
    You know, when I was growing up outside of Chicago a LONG time ago, we used to carry rifles from our homes into the woods, and nobody cared. It was considered normal. Later when I was in HS and College in WI, we had 30/30's hanging in the back of our Pickup truck windows, IN THE SCHOOL's Parking lot!

    WTF

    Responsible people are safe with Guns

    Get a grip.

    The kid has EVERY right to carry openly.

    Quit being pussified by our culture.

    OPEN carry is legal in this State.

    If you don't like it, move back to CA

    Would you feel safer in a gun free zone????

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    you can validate it in any way you see fit, no one here is going to argue it was his right, but for those of us in reality the truth of the matter is we are this close to losing a lot of our rights as it pertains to firearms. doing things like this, which everyone and their brother knows is for publicity and to show you can do it, only furthers the agenda of our enemies. fact is, the majority of non-gun owners aren't anti gun loons, but they won't understand a stunt like this and it will turn them further against us. we need their support to keep the rights the nuts want to take. you don't have to like it, i sure as hell don't, but thats the truth. we need everyone to be exercising common sense at a time like this.
    Look, the anti's are out for registration, then confiscation. PERIOD

    anything you do, will further their agenda. PERIOD

    Tell me what you would rather see, an Armed Society, much like the founding fathers sought, which then becomes a polite society, or a society, which cringes when one of it's own, the kid in this instance, hides it's rights in shame....

    I understand your point, but the only way currently to rectify it is to show that we WILL NOT be disarmed....

    Food for thought, not a flame war......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demodave View Post
    You know, when I was growing up outside of Chicago a LONG time ago, we used to carry rifles from our homes into the woods, and nobody cared. It was considered normal. Later when I was in HS and College in WI, we had 30/30's hanging in the back of our Pickup truck windows, IN THE SCHOOL's Parking lot!

    WTF

    Responsible people are safe with Guns

    Get a grip.

    The kid has EVERY right to carry openly.

    Quit being pussified by our culture.

    OPEN carry is legal in this State.

    If you don't like it, move back to CA

    Would you feel safer in a gun free zone????
    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.... The kid is a moron. Plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.... The kid is a moron. Plain and simple.
    First Jm, just because you have a First Amendment Right doesn't mean you should, and yes your a moron, Plain and Simple.

    Good for the kid, he's got bigger balls than most of his forefathers that allowed his Rights to get trampled. A Right not exercised is no Right at all. I'm with DemoDave, they're coming, you can cowtow, you can play nice, you can hide in shame and fear, but they will come and they WILL confiscate. But only to those who won't resist, those that will comply, those that will conform. As for me, I'm with the kid. My Rights come from God and not man and he and he alone will be the One to take mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildboarem View Post
    First Jm, just because you have a First Amendment Right doesn't mean you should, and yes your a moron, Plain and Simple.
    Irony.

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