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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosty View Post
    Ya know, I really like that idea. Most reasonable people will be put at ease. Either then ignore you, or ask you questions, if they wanted an intelligent debate and answers to the usual "do you really think we should arm teachers?", and the like.

    Only the really uninformed and scared people would still have a negative reaction.
    Yeah, we have to take the scary away from guns and I feel like this could be an easy way to do so. Ill make a new thread and see what the support is like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.... The kid is a moron. Plain and simple.
    First Jm, just because you have a First Amendment Right doesn't mean you should, and yes your a moron, Plain and Simple.

    Good for the kid, he's got bigger balls than most of his forefathers that allowed his Rights to get trampled. A Right not exercised is no Right at all. I'm with DemoDave, they're coming, you can cowtow, you can play nice, you can hide in shame and fear, but they will come and they WILL confiscate. But only to those who won't resist, those that will comply, those that will conform. As for me, I'm with the kid. My Rights come from God and not man and he and he alone will be the One to take mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildboarem View Post
    First Jm, just because you have a First Amendment Right doesn't mean you should, and yes your a moron, Plain and Simple.
    Irony.

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    I'll open the smelly can of tuna- Just how do our "gun rights" come from God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakerd View Post
    I'll open the smelly can of tuna- Just how do our "gun rights" come from God?
    Your right to defend yourself and property. Essentially the .gov does not have the authority to deprive you of any 'arms' they may issue or use. At least level the playing field to keep the .gov from having an advantage if tyranny were ever to rear it's ugly head. Which they assumed would eventually and repeatedly happen. It's also considered inalienable which means it can not ever be taken. At the time it was just assumed and even writing it did not make sense to the laymen. But being a wise bunch of freedom lovers who were thinking about you and I, knew that at some point in time some power hungry tyrant would attempt to say differently so they wrote just to make sure.

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    Ok- fair enough, not a bad explanation. I'm simply an agnostic who bucks whenever these generalisms are bandied about like "It's God's will" and that kind of baloney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefe's AR View Post
    Your right to defend yourself and property. Essentially the .gov does not have the authority to deprive you of any 'arms' they may issue or use. At least level the playing field to keep the .gov from having an advantage if tyranny were ever to rear it's ugly head. Which they assumed would eventually and repeatedly happen. It's also considered inalienable which means it can not ever be taken. At the time it was just assumed and even writing it did not make sense to the laymen. But being a wise bunch of freedom lovers who were thinking about you and I, knew that at some point in time some power hungry tyrant would attempt to say differently so they wrote just to make sure.
    What section of the bible is that in, Ecclesiastics or Old testament?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakerd View Post
    Ok- fair enough, not a bad explanation. I'm simply an agnostic who bucks whenever these generalisms are bandied about like "It's God's will" and that kind of baloney.
    Heard a good way to look at this from Beck who got it from Penn Gillet.

    Christians (people of faith, whatever subset might be) believe our rights come from God. Athiest do not believe in God but still believe in personal rights and they come from within rather then a higher power.

    The common agreement is both groups understand that rights DO NOT come from government.
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    Not to get too OT, but if you're really interested, here's a decent read. Exodus 22 is part of where the Bible presents the idea of the right to defend one's self.

    http://armedcitizensnetwork.org/the-...d-self-defense
    http://disciplejourney.com

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    The founders believed our rights came from our "creator". Essentially they are inherent and you're born with them. Some folks speak of them as "natural rights" and we are not granted them by some legal authority. One of these is self-preservation. Nature isn't here to nurture us. Nature provides us with many opportunities to die. We must fight for our survival. Our founders knew that the best way we could preserve our lives and those of our loved ones was through the use of arms.

    Somewhere along the way, some folks decided to ignore or change what "shall not be infringed" means, and here we are. Fighting for our freedom, way of life, and our survival.
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