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    Bert voiced my exact thought. Gtfo my head,Bert!!!
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    The issue isn't the Secret Service protection. It's the president's kids going to a school that has always had armed security. Same school that the Meet the Press guy's kids go to.

    Basically, the secure school with armed guards is good enough for the rich elite, but not for the rest of us. We get gun free zones.

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    Why do his kids get it and mine don't? He is a public servant as far as I am concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Gtfo my head,Bert!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_187 View Post
    Why do his kids get it and mine don't? He is a public servant as far as I am concerned.
    I am not talking about Obama, but any President. I work in the Defense Industry and I know what powers can be brought to bare by the Presidents orders. What would you do to save your kids if they were kidnapped? He has the power to launch a nuke anywhere at any time without anyone having the authority to stop him. I believe the Presidemts family should be protected. Otherwise, one of those nut jobs would kidnap his kids and force him to blow up Isreal or Turkey or England or .. He is a Public servant, but one you dont want to be put in that position. Again, I am talking any President.

    To me, having guards at a school was a seperate subject. I am guessing the school is private and they pay extra in the tuition to pay for the guards. Thats an assumption, anyone know if thats true? If it is then I don't see whats wrong with them paying extra for a private school with guards as long as I have the same opportunity to pay extra for a private school with guards here. Thats an apples to apples scenario. Public school and private school are different. If they attend Public school then thats a different position.

    Then the question comes down to would you be willing to have your taxes raised to provide an armed gaurd at your kids school? I would. That would mean a ballot would need to be introduced to raise taxes for security much like they do when they want to do school improvements. That would take a grass roots efforts by parents to get such a ballot going.

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    I would not pay extra taxes for the simple fact they would be pirated and never used as intended.

    You seem to have missed the point.
    Just what the hell makes ANY childs life any more or less important than any other child?
    Rich child, poor child.
    Black child, white child.
    Citizen child or non-citizen child.
    Makes no difference.
    A childs life is a childs life and they all deserve a safe environment in which to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Back to the original question.
    Bullshit on the POTUS's kids needing additional security.
    Their lives are no more special than any other childs lives.
    They just have the privilege of having hired security at their disposal 24/7.
    Our kids have to rely on us and the meager offerings of the public school systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romer View Post

    Then the question comes down to would you be willing to have your taxes raised to provide an armed gaurd at your kids school?
    i already have to pay for everyone else's kids to go to school. I would rather my tax dollars be spent on my children only. But, that's not an option. Cut the school budget back to reading, writing, arithmetic, history, and science. And keep the schools secure.

    you want....
    music???
    sports???
    foreign language???
    art????

    pay for it your damn self. they are electives, my tax dollars would be better spent providing security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    I would not pay extra taxes for the simple fact they would be pirated and never used as intended.

    You seem to have missed the point.
    Just what the hell makes ANY childs life any more or less important than any other child?
    Rich child, poor child.
    Black child, white child.
    Citizen child or non-citizen child.
    Makes no difference.
    A childs life is a child's life and they all deserve a safe environment in which to learn.
    I don't feel any child's life is worth more than any other. I awas looking at it from a National Security point of view of what could happen if his kids are not protected. In the same manner they protect the Pilots with door locks and not allowing you to approach the bathroom on a plane while the Pilot is out, so no one can take the plane over and crash it into a building. The Pilot doesn't have any more right to the bathroom than I do.

    I also agree strongly that any child deserves a safe place to learn and no one deserves one more.

    Someone thought this was my original point and its not. I used it as an example of the current campaign being used. Its works for you and many on here. My point is the campaign needs to be targeted for those that are not clearly in this corner and can be convinced to move to this side. I am with you man, not against you. My kids deserve the same treatment as the Presidents. My kids deserve and I expect them to have a safe environment to learn in.

    The point is the campaign. Maybe I don't understand and the target for the NRAs campaign are the NRA members. If so then this entire thread was a waste of bits. If not, then yes use the argument about they have guarded schools while being against it at the same time. Many will see the Presidents kids (not more valuable) in a different light because of National Security and that defused the point of guards in school because the whole discussion became about the Presidents kids and why or why not they should be protected

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    i already have to pay for everyone else's kids to go to school. I would rather my tax dollars be spent on my children only. But, that's not an option. Cut the school budget back to reading, writing, arithmetic, history, and science. And keep the schools secure.

    you want....
    music???
    sports???
    foreign language???
    art????

    pay for it your damn self. they are electives, my tax dollars would be better spent providing security.
    I would be fine with cutting the budget back, but I doubt the school adminstrations would do that.

    If I could have my druthers they would drop some of the bs crap they do at schools and put guards on duty. I deal with a lot of bueracratic BS at work and know that schools are even worse from trying to deal with stuff with my kids school.

    I didnt mean to stir a few of you up. The internet is a 2 dimensional medium and meaning is being taken that was not my intent.

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