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    Zombie Slayer Zundfolge's Avatar
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    Default A rant about help wanted ads

    I have developed a visceral hatred for people that put "DOE" for compensation in their help wanted ads.

    Its a fucking lie, you jackasses have zero intention of paying based on experience, you DO have a range you're willing to pay ... for fuck's sake if some schmo came in after a 10 year stint as a senior art director for someplace like BBDO or Omnicom you're not going to fucking pay him the high 6 fucking figures his experience demands and you fucking know it!

    So MAN THE FUCK UP and put the actual pay range you're considering so the over qualified and under qualified leave you the fuck alone (and you don't waste their time either).



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    I agree completely. Not for my sake, but for my wife's, who is heavily considering a career change.
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    A few small companies will try to screw you out of your pay altogether, especially if it is a 1099 job or "off the books." Of course they all promise high wages in the ad.

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    Nice flow, just kinda rolls off your tongue, good use of the f-bombs. Overall, best I've heard in a while. 9/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    for fuck's sake if some schmo came in after a 10 year stint as a senior art director for someplace like BBDO or Omnicom you're not going to fucking pay him the high 6 fucking figures his experience demands and you fucking know it!
    Having spent the past 25 years working with people in the ad industry you list, there really isn't a more despicable bunch out there. They'll stab you in the back for simple pleasure, irrespective of budget.

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    I got paid more than my counter parts because of my experience. Nothing to brag about though.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    I can't remember the last time I got paid what I would consider an appriate amount based on my knowledge & experience.......

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    I agree. I work for a megacorp and a while back put in for an internal job. They don't even post pay scale to current employees. I knew folks in the department so I knew the pay range. Was actually over qualified, but was looking for a change. After a few interviews, they offered me the job............at close to bottom of the scale. Stayed in my current position. Wasted tons of gas and time, even bought "interview" close. This is a great time for employers, they know they hold the cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4372 View Post
    I agree. I work for a megacorp and a while back put in for an internal job. They don't even post pay scale to current employees. I knew folks in the department so I knew the pay range.
    In a lot of corporate jobs, simply disclosing your salary to another employee is grounds for immediate termination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    In a lot of corporate jobs, simply disclosing your salary to another employee is grounds for immediate termination.
    This.

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