Any of you guys exercise.....

[Flatline]

Well...Guess you're just too manly ...There's a little more to it than that but you are entitled to your opinion.

If you want me to tell you why cross-fit/"boot camp"/rapid obstacle type workout programs are bad and encourage poor form, increased risk of injury (including well documented cases of rhabdomylosis), don't provide the cardio benefits of biking/rowing/running...etc, don't provide great increases in strength, and haven't been proven to be beneficial to training for any sport by a credible organization then we can talk further by pm.

What I was really saying it that I don't understand why I'd pay $73 bucks for it. Lets examine what I get if I sign up: (my analysis in italics)

All Racers Receive:
- Finishers Medal $2 pot metal that is good for what?
- T-Shirt $5-10 for a shit that I would only ever wear to the gym, and probably feel ashamed for doing so?
- Free Beer ticket for anyone 21 and over $1 pour of bud light, and not really great for anyone who actually works out
- Bragging Rights Worthless
- Free Mud Got that in the back yard
- High Pressure Water to the Gut Worthless
- Roasted Shoelaces Worthless
- Scrapes and Bruises Takes me out of a real exercise routine and might prevent me from being able to play hockey for a bit
- Awesome Stories to Tell Worthless

So i get $8-13 in crap I don't want, so I'm giving the organizers $60+ for what? I doubt the set up costs that much, and if it does they need to find a better organizer.

[gemery]

If you want me to tell you why cross-fit/"boot camp"/rapid obstacle type workout programs are bad and encourage poor form, increased risk of injury (including well documented cases of rhabdomylosis), don't provide the cardio benefits of biking/rowing/running...etc, don't provide great increases in strength, and haven't been proven to be beneficial to training for any sport by a credible organization then we can talk further by pm.

What I was really saying it that I don't understand why I'd pay $73 bucks for it. Lets examine what I get if I sign up: (my analysis in italics)



So i get $8-13 in crap I don't want, so I'm giving the organizers $60+ for what? I doubt the set up costs that much, and if it does they need to find a better organizer.

Again, thanks for your opinion...I can see where you're coming from.....BUT....

First, I don't do crossfit....never have and never will. As far as organized working out I enjoy my Kempo classes and that's about it.....As I've stated in some other threads I'm a bit of a misanthrope so like to stay away from large groups of people as I get my fill when I travel through various airports.

It's not all about YOU (OR ME) - All you have to do is a little reading.....Spartan Race organizers give MUCH money to worthy causes - "Since 2004 this organization has build 100 homes for injured veterans. They have recently launched their initiative to build the next 100 homes and we're hoping that you'll join us to help in their mission."

I'm also working through my church to collect and donate funds based on my finishing time....every little bit counts.

This is about more than being physically fit - Most people can't tough it out mentally - The Spartan Race people screw with you ALL during the race. You never know how long the race will actually be, what obstacles you will face, etc, etc...Again, both mental and physical stress - Just like life OR (although not life or death) a SHTF scenario.....just "practice".

As for injuries, etc, etc - "That which does not kill us.", etc, etc - Having done VERY hard labor as both a child and into early adulthood (grew up in a family that logged in Northern New Hampshire...ahh hand splitting rock maple in the sub-zero January winters, worked truck tire service work on the highways, ran a truck tire retread shop, worked a farm where I seasonally bailed hay, etc, etc - Luckily this was ALL to get myself through school) I learned very early that either you learn to work SMART or, unfortunately, you learn to work around the injuries to stay in the game....But you NEVER stop working (or playing...Growing up by the Canadian border I played MUCH hockey....Nose broken 5 times but still have all my teeth...although top fronts have been cracked by both a puck and a punch to the mouth).
I use the same mentality for my exercise routine...and my doctor has no issues with my methodologies...Example, I injured a tendon in my left lower leg (swollen, squeaked when I moved it) Doc stated it was a type of tendonitis and needed to give THAT particular part of my leg about a months rest. So I turned my 10k runs and walks into 30 mile HARD mt biking routines, still did my burpees and other workouts but made sure that I STILL got in my hardcore travelling as if my life depended on it. My tendonitis healed and hasn't been back at all. I admit though...again, I'm a bit on the old side (45 years old isn't EXACTLY a spring chicken) I don't heal like I used to....But I still heal.

Aaanyway......

As far as I'm concerned this is ALL like insurance. SHTF scenario is going to be about BOTH mental and physical survival. I can be as physically fit as I want to be but if I don't have what it takes to deal with an injury AND KEEP MOVING then I (and most likely my family) is dead AND like insurance, I really pray that I never need it...But it's excellent to have when you need it.

[tmckay2]

it never fails that these types of threads encourage someone to pop out and beat their chest and show everyone why they are cooler or better than everyone else.

you don't do these types of things constantly, using it to get in shape. it is designed to push you to your limits, you do it once or twice a year to check your fitness level and get out of your normal workout routine to see what kind of shape you are truly in. its a test, nothing more. you pay the 70 bucks (chump change) to allow someone else more creative than yourself and with a bigger area to operate in to create a course for you to be tested. this isn't rocket science. no one here is saying you should do such races every day in order to get in shape. good lord people. its like the ironman challenges and running a marathon. it gives you a goal and allows you to measure your fitness and improvement. plus, its fun.

and this is coming from someone that has no intention to do one ever.

do you even know what rhabdo is? mild cases aren't that big of a deal. if it happens to you once through over exertion you'll be fine. i have seen people get rhabdo from doing too excessive of calf workouts. i have had a very mild case myself from a backpacking trip where we did 14 miles per day.

on a day to day basis, yes, you should do biking, rowing, running, etc. mixed in with some weight lifting. of course. this is obvious. no one is assuming they will be able to bench 250 instead of 200 by doing these types of races. is that actually what you think this guy believes these are for? you do have an increased risk of injury, but i could also break my ankle walking to my car. for a one time a year thing its a reasonable risk to take.

by the way, in terms of cost, everything you buy in life you are getting less than what you paid for it, so welcome to reality. in terms of cost, these types of things have to pay people to man it, probably pay paramedics of some sort to be on the premises, pay to advertise it, pay to set it up, and pay for some form of insurance, even with waivers.

If you want me to tell you why cross-fit/"boot camp"/rapid obstacle type workout programs are bad and encourage poor form, increased risk of injury (including well documented cases of rhabdomylosis), don't provide the cardio benefits of biking/rowing/running...etc, don't provide great increases in strength, and haven't been proven to be beneficial to training for any sport by a credible organization then we can talk further by pm.

What I was really saying it that I don't understand why I'd pay $73 bucks for it. Lets examine what I get if I sign up: (my analysis in italics)



So i get $8-13 in crap I don't want, so I'm giving the organizers $60+ for what? I doubt the set up costs that much, and if it does they need to find a better organizer.

[gemery]

it never fails that these types of threads encourage someone to pop out and beat their chest and show everyone why they are cooler or better than everyone else.

you don't do these types of things constantly, using it to get in shape. it is designed to push you to your limits, you do it once or twice a year to check your fitness level and get out of your normal workout routine to see what kind of shape you are truly in. its a test, nothing more. you pay the 70 bucks (chump change) to allow someone else more creative than yourself and with a bigger area to operate in to create a course for you to be tested. this isn't rocket science. no one here is saying you should do such races every day in order to get in shape. good lord people. its like the ironman challenges and running a marathon. it gives you a goal and allows you to measure your fitness and improvement. plus, its fun.

and this is coming from someone that has no intention to do one ever.

do you even know what rhabdo is? mild cases aren't that big of a deal. if it happens to you once through over exertion you'll be fine. i have seen people get rhabdo from doing too excessive of calf workouts. i have had a very mild case myself from a backpacking trip where we did 14 miles per day.

on a day to day basis, yes, you should do biking, rowing, running, etc. mixed in with some weight lifting. of course. this is obvious. no one is assuming they will be able to bench 250 instead of 200 by doing these types of races. is that actually what you think this guy believes these are for? you do have an increased risk of injury, but i could also break my ankle walking to my car. for a one time a year thing its a reasonable risk to take.

You actually worded it MUCH better than I did....and in fewer words.