Close
Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 48
  1. #31
    Grand Master Know It All hatidua's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    boulder
    Posts
    4,096

    Default

    BSA policy, either for/against homosexuality isn't going to increase/decrease the number of gay scouts any more than new gun legislation put forth by Feinstein/Obama is going to affect criminals getting guns. You can have all the rules/regulations/laws you want but they will never equate compliance.

  2. #32
    Guest
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Milliken, CO
    Posts
    1,421

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Melvin View Post
    This about kids. That's why it isn't called the Man Scouts of America.

    As to your second point, you may want to point that out to the stool pusher mafia.
    The first point was directed at you and your assertion of "nature's criminals" and the fact that IMO you're no better than the gun grabbers.

    The second point is pretty clear in that I don't buy the BS about forcing organizations to accept those they don't want. And the Courts have agreed on this as well with regards to the BSA multiple times in the past. The fact that they have decided on a national level to now allow gays, but are leaving it up to individual local troops to decide for themselves how they wish to go on with the issue and their own membership, tells me they just want the fight to be over with on a national level.

  3. #33
    Ammocurious Rucker61's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Fort Collins, CO, USA
    Posts
    3,359

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I can't imagine this is going to work out well for the BSA.

    I suspect that they are about to lose a ton of funding, members and places to meet.
    According to Wikipedia, the LDS church sponsors about 30,000 Scout units, about 13% of Scouts by population. I would assume they'd pull their sponsorship.

  4. #34
    Guest
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Milliken, CO
    Posts
    1,421

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    All I'm addressing is a 100 year old organization dropping one of their traditional rules.
    Ahh, got it.

  5. #35
    Gourmet Catfood Connoisseur StagLefty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    6,638

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    According to Wikipedia, the LDS church sponsors about 30,000 Scout units, about 13% of Scouts by population. I would assume they'd pull their sponsorship.
    I didn't even consider that !!! The Mormon church uses the Scout program as their youth program.
    Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to Fight, he'll just kill you.

  6. #36
    Guest
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Milliken, CO
    Posts
    1,421

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    According to Wikipedia, the LDS church sponsors about 30,000 Scout units, about 13% of Scouts by population. I would assume they'd pull their sponsorship.
    Hopefully they'd just knock it down to local level and support those local troops that choose to keep their troop in line with what the church feels is right. But who knows.

  7. #37
    Grand Master Know It All clublights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Denver
    Posts
    2,517

    Default

    Oh Jesus .....

    They are letting it be decided at troop level ... if you and yours don't want to have gay scouts or leaders then change troops or start your own.

    I'm an Eagle and see nothing wrong here.
    You anti gay folks seem to be worried about the super flamer dancing in their underwear on the float at the gay pride parade.

    Guess what THOSE gays WON'T JOIN SCOUTS. They don't go camping, they are not "outdoorsy" they would want nothing to do with Scouts or kids.

    Gay pedophiles are not going to advertise the fact they are gay pedophiles if the scouts let gays in or not . cuz guess what .. BEING A PEDOPHIlLE IS ILLEGAL.

    Gay pedophiles already manage to get in to scouting and have caused problems. Let's gays in or not will not change this problem. Hell might even help prevent it . The Gay pedophile Might let it slip he is a pedophile to the other Gay leaders and then they can kick him out. Just because your gay doesn't mean you wouldn't wanna protect your/others child from a predator .


    But equating gay with pedophile is like saying gun owner = murderer.

  8. #38
    Ammocurious Rucker61's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Fort Collins, CO, USA
    Posts
    3,359

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    Hopefully they'd just knock it down to local level and support those local troops that choose to keep their troop in line with what the church feels is right. But who knows.
    I would suspect that troops sponsored by the LDS are likely to be led and managed by church members, so locally there might not be much change. The annual national/regional gatherings might get interesting, though.

  9. #39
    I am my own action figure
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Wheat Ridge
    Posts
    4,010
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Guess what THOSE gays WON'T JOIN SCOUTS. They don't go camping, they are not "outdoorsy" they would want nothing to do with Scouts or kids.
    So you use a stereotypical response to refute stereotypes...The friends I have had that were homosexual did not fit your stereotype, and one was in the Scouts as a youth and made Eagle Scout.
    Good Shooting, MarkCO

    www.CarbonArms.us
    www.crci.org

  10. #40
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Evergreen CO
    Posts
    234

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    The first point was directed at you and your assertion of "nature's criminals" and the fact that IMO you're no better than the gun grabbers.

    The second point is pretty clear in that I don't buy the BS about forcing organizations to accept those they don't want. And the Courts have agreed on this as well with regards to the BSA multiple times in the past. The fact that they have decided on a national level to now allow gays, but are leaving it up to individual local troops to decide for themselves how they wish to go on with the issue and their own membership, tells me they just want the fight to be over with on a national level.
    If you violate the law you are a criminal. Violating the nature hardly equates to a right. If some dude was schtupping goat, a cactus or corpse, an apple pie you still going to stand there and say he is normal? No you're not because you haven't been brainwashed to think that was normal.

    Good thing their mindset(BSA management) didn't hold sway back in the 40s or we would all be speaking germanese. Just another example of spineless Americans more concerned with being liked than standing on principle.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •