" I dont care about the second amendment"

[sniper7]

And no guy caught taking a leak on the side of a country road should be labeled as a "sex offender" either. That's gotta be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.

yep, this is one of the worst. it's all about intent.

[sniper7]

everyone who is saying "they are felons", just remember who made the laws. I'm not saying they should or should not be able to own the guns (assuming they even own them like cstone has said). What I am saying is that if tomorrow colorado makes it a felony to own an "assault weapon", 30 round mag, or even a single round that could be used in either of those. then what?
I don't know what these guys did, so there is still plenty left to find out and decide, but I'm just throwing out the what if scenario.

[Jackrabbit]

I'd guess CBI would fall under the "law enforcement and judicial system" so a sealed record would still get you a denial on a gun purchase?

[DHC]

I'd guess CBI would fall under the "law enforcement and judicial system" so a sealed record would still get you a denial on a gun purchase?

That is correct. A sealed record does NOT vacate a conviction, hence, a background check would likely turn up the conviction.

[RonMexico]

I'd guess CBI would fall under the "law enforcement and judicial system" so a sealed record would still get you a denial on a gun purchase?

Nope, I overheard a guy talking about having of demostic violence in 1970 but passed fed and CBI check... He also lost his govt clearance bc he popped on a drug test. Guess CBI doesn't dig in boxes to approve bgc.
I heard the check isn't based on an exact match but a process of elimination

[WETWRKS]

I have a friend who was convicted of drug possession here in Colorado, moved to Washington state and got his rights restored there. Now here is the odd thing...Colorado doesn't recognize the restoration done by Washington state and he cannot pass a federal background check as the ATF has no process in place to restore ones rights.

[Goodburbon]

I have no reason to believe their claims of felonious crimes are false. I have not seen the weapons, I do know that they claim to have purchased them private party. I do have reason to believe they are not lying about having ownership of these weapons.

Several years ago I overheard a subordinate's confession of murder. I got burned when I requested this person's personal information so that I could verify status of warrants etc. The supervisor did not respond to me, but instead told the guy I was asking about him. I did get a chance to fire that supervisor, and did. Try not being nervous when you share a bunk room with someone who's just found out that you're investigating their claims of murder. I am not turning in anyone, their crimes are their business as long as they are not a perceivable threat to me or my family.

[lead_magnet]

I am not turning in anyone, their crimes are their business as long as they are not a perceivable threat to me or my family.

Wow. So to hell with calling the cops when someone is breaking into your neighbors car then? Not reporting any DUIs? Eh, just let the shoplifter you just spotted go without saying anything. Holy shit man. I'm not suggesting everyone stick their neck out to the extreme, but isn't part of being a responsible gun owner/useful member of society mean that we should do the right thing, even if we ourselves don't benefit by it? That's just a very sheep like attitude to have. To hell with "fight the good fight" I suppose.

So these guys, who have allegedly committed UNKNOWN felonies have a Glock, and AK and and AR pattern rifle? Well, lets explore that idea... hmmm.. they said "felony"... DV isn't a felony unless there is SBI or some other factor involved. So these guys probably committed either Felony Menacing (threatening someone with a deadly weapon), Aggravated Burg/Rob (again, use of a weapon) and so on... are we noticing something? The use of a weapon ... in other words NOT SOMEONE WHO NEEDS TO OWN A GUN. They had their chance. But hey are supposedly reformed and all better now? I think your ignoring the fact that both are willing to continue to engage in illegal activity and don't seem to ashamed of doing so.

I know the response that is coming, "what if it was just a drug crime". Lets explore that, shall we? This means that they weren't caught smoking a J at their buddies house. This is either possession of either a very large quantity of pot, or dist., or possession of something far worse (meth, coke, heroin, etc.), again, not someone that should have a weapon.

Keep in mind that being arrested for a felony is a different ballgame than getting convicted of one. Most people arrested for a felony will plea out to a misdemeanor charge. So whatever they were hit with was probably substantial enough that either the judge or the DA was unwilling to let them plea to something lesser. So I for one don't buy the bullshit that some others here have suggested that these poor helpless little angels got caught taking a leek on the side of the road and is now a registered sex offender who just wants to teach his kid to shoot a .22lr. Get real. /rant

Again, I'm not attacking your decision do nothing (hmmm, I'm reminded of a quote there), what I am attacking is your attitude toward the situation.

Keep in mind I don't frequently attack people on here, but really look at what you're doing. You openly announce on a public forum that you have knowledge of felonious firearm related activity, and that you don't care about it, and your not interested in doing anything about it. Not the wisest of decisions, and if it were up to me I would have this thread deleted and reported to the Fremont County Sheriff's Office. I'm pretty sure the latter has already been taken care of.

[Ashton]

Wow. So to hell with calling the cops when someone is breaking into your neighbors car then? Not reporting any DUIs? Eh, just let the shoplifter you just spotted go without saying anything. Holy shit man. I'm not suggesting everyone stick their neck out to the extreme, but isn't part of being a responsible gun owner/useful member of society mean that we should do the right thing, even if we ourselves don't benefit by it? That's just a very sheep like attitude to have. To hell with "fight the good fight" I suppose.

So these guys, who have allegedly committed UNKNOWN felonies have a Glock, and AK and and AR pattern rifle? Well, lets explore that idea... hmmm.. they said "felony"... DV isn't a felony unless there is SBI or some other factor involved. So these guys probably committed either Felony Menacing (threatening someone with a deadly weapon), Aggravated Burg/Rob (again, use of a weapon) and so on... are we noticing something? The use of a weapon ... in other words NOT SOMEONE WHO NEEDS TO OWN A GUN. They had their chance. But hey are supposedly reformed and all better now? I think your ignoring the fact that both are willing to continue to engage in illegal activity and don't seem to ashamed of doing so.

I know the response that is coming, "what if it was just a drug crime". Lets explore that, shall we? This means that they weren't caught smoking a J at their buddies house. This is either possession of either a very large quantity of pot, or dist., or possession of something far worse (meth, coke, heroin, etc.), again, not someone that should have a weapon.

Keep in mind that being arrested for a felony is a different ballgame than getting convicted of one. Most people arrested for a felony will plea out to a misdemeanor charge. So whatever they were hit with was probably substantial enough that either the judge or the DA was unwilling to let them plea to something lesser. So I for one don't buy the bullshit that some others here have suggested that these poor helpless little angels got caught taking a leek on the side of the road and is now a registered sex offender who just wants to teach his kid to shoot a .22lr. Get real. /rant

Again, I'm not attacking your decision do nothing (hmmm, I'm reminded of a quote there), what I am attacking is your attitude toward the situation.

Keep in mind I don't frequently attack people on here, but really look at what you're doing. You openly announce on a public forum that you have knowledge of felonious firearm related activity, and that you don't care about it, and your not interested in doing anything about it. Not the wisest of decisions, and if it were up to me I would have this thread deleted and reported to the Fremont County Sheriff's Office. I'm pretty sure the latter has already been taken care of.

Surely this is a moral dillema. I would be more interested in what their so called felony is though as the MAJORITY of felony charges are marijuana charges. Possession of one plant is a felony charge. Possession of a small amount of marijuana but a large amount of money is a felony charge. Granted your statistics are correct and about 75% of felony charges do get plea'd to a non felony charge before trial. IMHO MOST of those that didn't get plead down to a mis demeanor just got a shitty lawyer. A very small percentage of people truly were "shitty people" because lets be honest people who are commiting felonies know what is a felony what isn't a felony what they can carry that makes it not a felony and what they can carry that makes it a felony. True felons know the game.... So I guess the real question for me would be do they have multiple felony convictions? It's pretty damn hard to miss the train twice or more.

[Ashton]

Also the above posts are pre 64... and almost any state that doesn't have marijuana legalized. 12 OZ or possession of more then 6 plants is a felony in CO for marijuana.

With that being said I'm pro marijuana after seeing it actually prolong / ease the suffering of a cancer patient. Yup. They eventually did die. However, watching them not throw up and fall down because they were so dizzy due to the cancer and marijuanas effect on it... Also, to produce the amount of "medicine"needed to have these effects... Well lets just say you would have multiple felonies (which probably wouldn't be plea bargained).