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    Grand Master Know It All clublights's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    The process varies depending on the state in which the offense occurred . . . and BATFE does not always recognize restoration of rights anyway. Some states automatically restore all rights as soon as the sentence is completed, some 10 or 20 years later, some require a pardon from the governor, a few require applying to the judge who sentenced them, and some don't restore rights at all (or deny 99% of pardon applications). IIRC, the concept of "prohibited persons" is fairly recent (1968) and unique to the United States. In my opinion it is contrary to the constitution and constitutes double jeopardy or extralegal persecution. If someone is dangerous, but needs to be released, subject them to court supervision indefinitely with "no firearms" a condition of their parole. If someone has completed a sentence for a minor offense that occurred 30 years in the past, they should not risk federal prison because their son wants a .22 rifle to shoot cans.

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    And you know they are convicted felons because they told you?

    Have you seen them in possession of guns, or is that just based on what they have told you too?

    No one has ever lied about stupid things before have they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    The process varies depending on the state in which the offense occurred . . . and BATFE does not always recognize restoration of rights anyway. Some states automatically restore all rights as soon as the sentence is completed, some 10 or 20 years later, some require a pardon from the governor, a few require applying to the judge who sentenced them, and some don't restore rights at all (or deny 99% of pardon applications). IIRC, the concept of "prohibited persons" is fairly recent (1968) and unique to the United States. In my opinion it is contrary to the constitution and constitutes double jeopardy or extralegal persecution. If someone is dangerous, but needs to be released, subject them to court supervision indefinitely with "no firearms" a condition of their parole. If someone has completed a sentence for a minor offense that occurred 30 years in the past, they should not risk federal prison because their son wants a .22 rifle to shoot cans.
    All true of course, it does depend on when/where it was and what Felony they committed. For my employee, it was burglary when he was 18, in CO and he got it done. Another I know from home (MN) was similar, but was 20 when he committed his offenses and had a drug problem. He's since been clean and proved that to the courts and got his rights restored.

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    My friend was told there is no recourse but a pardon from the governor. Attorney said CO doesn't expunge felonies, not even for minors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    I apologize for my cynical response. Call it an occupational hazard. I get lied to for a living
    Cop, Judge, 1st Lt. in the Army, Or parent of a teenager ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    And you know they are convicted felons because they told you?

    Have you seen them in possession of guns, or is that just based on what they have told you too?

    No one has ever lied about stupid things before have they?

    I apologize for my cynical response. Call it an occupational hazard. I get lied to for a living
    People lie in sex therapy?

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    And no guy caught taking a leak on the side of a country road should be labeled as a "sex offender" either. That's gotta be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.
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    everyone who is saying "they are felons", just remember who made the laws. I'm not saying they should or should not be able to own the guns (assuming they even own them like cstone has said). What I am saying is that if tomorrow colorado makes it a felony to own an "assault weapon", 30 round mag, or even a single round that could be used in either of those. then what?
    I don't know what these guys did, so there is still plenty left to find out and decide, but I'm just throwing out the what if scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    And no guy caught taking a leak on the side of a country road should be labeled as a "sex offender" either. That's gotta be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.
    yep, this is one of the worst. it's all about intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    People lie in sex therapy?

    yeah, all the women you've been with have all lied to you. sorry for the terrible news.
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