The sad reality of the future

[TheBelly]

You only think you are, dig a little deeper and your really a liberal!!


Did I diagnose that correctly, as i took it from the op......?

As you took it from the OP: meh.

In reality: way off base.

[jackthewall81]

I guess I'm a 90s liberal.... Sad day

[Rucker61]

I guess I'm a 90s liberal.... Sad day

Go to the range and work it out of your system.

[Cthulhu]

The communist infiltration of this country has been going on for a VERY long time. We've been warned and who can deny that at least some of these predictions were spot on.

Specifically:

"17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks."

"18. Gain control of all student newspapers."

"19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack."

"20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions."

"21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures."

"30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man.""

"31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over."

"36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions."

"40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce."

"41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents."

"45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike."

Past generations didn't pay attention or were collaborators to bring these goals to fruition. To simply blame the children of the 80's is too simplistic. They, as well as previous generations (ex. Baby Boomers), are the inevitable result of this slow insidious infiltration of our society

[Ronin13]

Kids born in the 1980's and 1990's have been fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not all of them, but enough that I would not be willing to point a finger at a whole generation.

It's their music. It's their clothes. It's their politics. It's their morals. Are we the old people now, just blaming everything on the children and grandchildren WE raised?

I think the brush we paint with should not be so broad. Just my opinion.

Be safe.

As one of those "kids" you speak of, I agree completely with this. My parents have always been conservative (father not as much anymore because of his status within the community makes him have to play the neutral card too much- business owner, board member, politically connected, former fire chief, etc), they raised me to believe in personal responsibility, work for what I have, appreciate the value of money and things, love of country, and that led to my decision to serve my nation and go to war, so that others don't have to. I was blown away when I joined and soon became bitter because so many didn't join for a contributory effort toward something bigger than themselves, they joined FOR themselves to get out of it everything without giving too much. Some probably wouldn't even save a battle buddy unless it benefited them. Not saying all were like that, but more than I had envisioned upon enlistment. Like I said yesterday in another thread, an overwhelming majority of folks I went through basic training with joined solely for the college benefits. I'm pissed that things like duty, honor, sacrifice, and love of nation are now considered "old fashioned." The fellow vets I appreciate and consider brothers for life are the ones who put more in to their service than they got out, and we are a minority it would seem (I'd love to be proven wrong, but as far as 3rd BDE, 10th Mtn from 2006-2010 is concerned, my estimation would seem correct).

When you approach it this way , 2 Bush II and now the second term for O has us at 12 yrs of war. Given voting age kids were between 6 & say 20 you have a decade and 1/2 of war era voting age kids. As i remember myself and others during the 60's & 70's a different approach is sought and folks tend to drift away from some of their beliefs.
Now if you ever have a conversation with our 29 yr old daughter that " liberal" mentality is no where to be found. I like it when she calls an says "There's some fukin hippies protesting, Think l'll go talk to them"
So no, Liberalism has not over taken todays society. The MSM and very well played Leftist use of social media, would have you believe it true.

Well put! Sounds like you did right in raising your daughter!

Born in '84 and I'm conservative.

Born just a year later and many of my friends would say I'm conservative, but I don't like being pigeonholed into that finite of a category- I would call myself a right-leaning, constitutionalist- or some have labeled me a conservative libertarian. I will consider them "fighting words" if you try and label me "liberal" like the OP... So let's avoid broad sweeping generalizations that due to someone's age they must be more liberal minded than their elders...

[robertcolorado2009]

I think the OP has a misguided definition of "Liberal Arts". Here is a quote I found regarding what Liberal Arts means today:

Modern usageMathematics, science, arts, and language can all be considered part of the liberal arts. Some subsections of the liberal arts are trivium—the verbal arts: logic, grammar, and rhetoric; and quadrivium—the numerical arts: arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy. Analyzing and interpreting information is also studied. Experience in the liberal arts aids in the formation and expression of well rounded opinions, via critical thinking.

[Trigger]

so let me get this right. anyone born from 1980 - present must be a liberal who is under obamas thumb and does not posses the ability to think for themselves and earn a living, the old fashioned way? what a callous, narrow minded, ignorant thing to say. I have served in the marine corps, some of my best friends are still in and in the sandbox, fighting for your right to rant and rave. I was born in 89, served in the military and currently work in the oil field, I've been called every thing from a libertarian to a right wing terrorist by my co-workers. and yet still here I sit, still hating everything obama represents, I send my letters just like everyone else and like everyone else am upset about nothing being done. before you make another broad wide sweeping accusation such as the one you've made, think about how many other individuals out there are on the opposite side of the fence.

[Melvin]

Okay a clarification. When I talk about the rift starting 1980 I am referring to high school graduates. Kids born since 1980 do not represent a large enough % of the voting age population to have effected the voting as it has been.
Obviously as predicted the indignant responses were the stuff of the sun rising in the east. I see that some don't know there is a difference between 90 and 100% or that if 1% are different that means only 99% are the same. I never said the victims of indoctrination indoctrinated themselves. My only concern is the results and consequences that stem from that indoctrination.

There was a mention that people born after 1980 have served in recent overseas conflicts. The number involved hardly equates to an entire generation. The last time a huge percentage of a generation served this country militarily was Vietnam. The vast majority of that generation born after 1980 would no more step up to serve in the military than they would help an old lady across the street, but they would assign an elk or a dog human rights.

For those who feel we are headed down the wrong road, I am simply saying that the reality is there are no bilge pumps big enough or fast enough to empty this hull of the black wave of ignorance that is sweeping over the nation. The future for those that care is going to be purely about survival. Those that disagree with me on this can not offer a single example in recorded human history that proves different.




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[Dave_L]

Okay a clarification. When I talk about the rift starting 1980 I am referring to high school graduates. Kids born since 1980 do not represent a large enough % of the voting age population to have effected the voting as it has been.

I think I'd wager that the current 18-22 year old range has had a major effect on the voting as it has been. Obama did a pretty good job at getting college kids on board.

[Ghosty]

Kids born in the 1980's and 1990's have been fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not all of them, but enough that I would not be willing to point a finger at a whole generation. It's their music. It's their clothes. It's their politics. It's their morals. Are we the old people now, just blaming everything on the children and grandchildren WE raised? I think the brush we paint with should not be so broad. Just my opinion.

Agreed. Although when I do get in a pissed off mood sometimes, I like say that Gen-X was the last "good non-lazy" generation that doesn't act mentally retarded much of the time, especially when concerning politics. But I realize that's an overgeneralization. But they're fun to make fun of.

Btw, I was born before the 80's, if it matters.