The sad reality of the future

[Ronin13]

Kids born in the 1980's and 1990's have been fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not all of them, but enough that I would not be willing to point a finger at a whole generation.

It's their music. It's their clothes. It's their politics. It's their morals. Are we the old people now, just blaming everything on the children and grandchildren WE raised?

I think the brush we paint with should not be so broad. Just my opinion.

Be safe.

As one of those "kids" you speak of, I agree completely with this. My parents have always been conservative (father not as much anymore because of his status within the community makes him have to play the neutral card too much- business owner, board member, politically connected, former fire chief, etc), they raised me to believe in personal responsibility, work for what I have, appreciate the value of money and things, love of country, and that led to my decision to serve my nation and go to war, so that others don't have to. I was blown away when I joined and soon became bitter because so many didn't join for a contributory effort toward something bigger than themselves, they joined FOR themselves to get out of it everything without giving too much. Some probably wouldn't even save a battle buddy unless it benefited them. Not saying all were like that, but more than I had envisioned upon enlistment. Like I said yesterday in another thread, an overwhelming majority of folks I went through basic training with joined solely for the college benefits. I'm pissed that things like duty, honor, sacrifice, and love of nation are now considered "old fashioned." The fellow vets I appreciate and consider brothers for life are the ones who put more in to their service than they got out, and we are a minority it would seem (I'd love to be proven wrong, but as far as 3rd BDE, 10th Mtn from 2006-2010 is concerned, my estimation would seem correct).

When you approach it this way , 2 Bush II and now the second term for O has us at 12 yrs of war. Given voting age kids were between 6 & say 20 you have a decade and 1/2 of war era voting age kids. As i remember myself and others during the 60's & 70's a different approach is sought and folks tend to drift away from some of their beliefs.
Now if you ever have a conversation with our 29 yr old daughter that " liberal" mentality is no where to be found. I like it when she calls an says "There's some fukin hippies protesting, Think l'll go talk to them"
So no, Liberalism has not over taken todays society. The MSM and very well played Leftist use of social media, would have you believe it true.

Well put! Sounds like you did right in raising your daughter!

Born in '84 and I'm conservative.

Born just a year later and many of my friends would say I'm conservative, but I don't like being pigeonholed into that finite of a category- I would call myself a right-leaning, constitutionalist- or some have labeled me a conservative libertarian. I will consider them "fighting words" if you try and label me "liberal" like the OP... So let's avoid broad sweeping generalizations that due to someone's age they must be more liberal minded than their elders...