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    Default SOCOM training in an abandoned Houston school

    I'm kinda of torn about this...

    I'm all for realistic training, but why in a residential neighborhood?

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    I don't have a problem with it. If you're concerned about the military going through towns clearing the place out, do you think they'd hit an elementary school first?

    It beats spending money to build a center specifically for that purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. If you're concerned about the military going through towns clearing the place out, do you think they'd hit an elementary school first?.
    I'm not saying that's the reason why they did this specific scenario. But if you think about it, geographically speaking, schools are typically centered in neighborhoods, and their architectural/structural features are better suited than houses for a base of operations. My unit did the same thing in a Haiti: we usually acquired a school or church in the middle of the mud hut towns, and ran the "peacekeeping" operation from there. Again, I'm not saying they are practicing that, but I'm not saying they aren't either.

    I trained myself at Drum and Berlin in old buildings, but like you guys state (unless I'm misunderstanding you) that was on military/federal property (exception-road marches in the outskirts of Berlin at 3AM)

    You guys are probably right, I've been watching to much GBTV and my tin-foil hat is too tight. I should probably accept military training in our cities as the new norm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by <MADDOG> View Post
    I'm not saying that's the reason why they did this specific scenario. But if you think about it, geographically speaking, schools are typically centered in neighborhoods, and their architectural/structural features are better suited than houses for a base of operations. My unit did the same thing in a Haiti: we usually acquired a school or church in the middle of the mud hut towns, and ran the "peacekeeping" operation from there. Again, I'm not saying they are practicing that, but I'm not saying they aren't either.
    Well I think the press will let us know if they are using the school as a staging ground for raids on nearby neighborhoods.

    I've been watching to much GBTV.
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    What better place than a school? Real world scenarios need real world training grounds.
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    We used to use soon to be demo'ed houses to train in all the time when I was in OSI. Hell, the academy at Andrews AFB would move from neighborhood to neighborhood on base as the houses were scheduled for and then demolished. We used simunitions, and we would come out and find the neighbors sitting around in their lawn chairs (from a distance) watching the training. Big bldg with lots of doors, corners, and stairwells? Premo training grounds.
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    right next door to a huge shopping center in SoCal is the old tustin USMC air base, I read from a guy that snuck in to do some photography in the hangars, and he found simunition casings *everywhere*. You can bet your bottom dollar that police, military, etc train in these places all the time.

    Heck, in FRANCE the army trains all the time in the villages as civilians go about their business, casually stepping aside to let the troops do their thing (obviously not with live ammo, but rifles, LMG's, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    right next door to a huge shopping center in SoCal is the old tustin USMC air base, I read from a guy that snuck in to do some photography in the hangars, and he found simunition casings *everywhere*. You can bet your bottom dollar that police, military, etc train in these places all the time.

    Heck, in FRANCE the army trains all the time in the villages as civilians go about their business, casually stepping aside to let the troops do their thing (obviously not with live ammo, but rifles, LMG's, etc).

    Irvine & tustin PD used to use the MCAS el toro & tustin hangars/buildings all the time for training. When i was younger i used to tag along with my dad there and spectate while they played war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DomEOD View Post
    Irvine PD used to use the USMC hangars & buildings all the time for training. When i was younger i used to tag along with my dad there and spectate while they played war.
    oh nice!

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    They used many of the old buildings for training when they were tearing down Fitzsimmons.
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