The transferee and county in #17 was left blank.
The transferee and county in #17 was left blank.
To ask may be but a moment's shame, not to ask and remain ignorant is a lifelong shame.
- Jigoro Kano
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
OK, I was thinking the same thing, just fill in the transferee and county. Thanks for the input!
To ask may be but a moment's shame, not to ask and remain ignorant is a lifelong shame.
- Jigoro Kano
before you mail out to ATF make copies of fingerprint card and Form !. This way you have reference once the wait goes past 6-7 months. They ask for serial number of item on form. Plus when you do your next stamp the copies are great cheat sheets. I use my stamps on hand as a double check prior to mailing off.
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
Make sure your dealer circles "I do" on line 9 on the Form 4, too.
This allows you to call and get information about your transfer. Otherwise the ATF will only give the dealer information.
Me, I always fill out the forms myself, have the dealer sign them, then I mail them. That way if there's a mistake, I'm the only one to blame.
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Ps. Only the government could come up with a form that's all text and check-boxes except for ONE field that needs to be circled.
YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.
My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2
I sent the paperwork on Wednesday. What a fiasco!
I sent it via USPS Priority flat rate envelope. Thinking it was a good idea, I got signature confirmation. As I was driving back to work, I realized it's addressed to a PO box! Is someone going to be present to sign for it? If so, will it get separated from the other transfer requests? Maybe delayed or never to be found again? Instant stress.
I called USPS and happened to get them to hold it. I came back down and they refunded my money and started over again. This time with just normal priority mail (tracking number is now included).
This has been the most stressful thing I have ever done. It's a mix of all the variables and uncertainty along with my personality type (anal retentive). You read to do one thing, then read to do another somewhere else. Over and over. If a screw up didn't cost up to half a years wait, it wouldn't be such a bid deal. I can't believe the ATF doesn't provide detailed (I mean real detailed) instructions on the form 4, 922g, and fingerprint cards. Tell us exactly what you want and no more speculation or contradicting info. This is my first experience with government red tape. It sucks! They suck!
Newbies, don't get discouraged from my rant. It doesn't have to be this stressful. My recommendation is to buy in-state if possible. Get a good local class 3 dealer. Go the trust route! Screw CLEO signatures, fingerprints and photos. I will provide details later about where the uncertainty lies on the form 4's CLEO section and fingerprint cards.
My budy learned from my choices. He just got an AAC Ti-Rant locally and went the trust route. All he needs to do is get his trust notarized and off goes his paperwork! Son of a bitch.
Last edited by ipleadda2nd; 02-22-2013 at 17:21.
To ask may be but a moment's shame, not to ask and remain ignorant is a lifelong shame.
- Jigoro Kano
The paperwork goes to a clearing house (for lack of a better word) to make sure there is no anthrax, etc inside the envelope (seriously) then off to it's final destination. So sending it over night, pony express, carrier pigeon, makes no difference. it's a hurry up and wait deal.
You did make a copy for you to reference, i hope?
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
Yep. Thanks for the advice.
To ask may be but a moment's shame, not to ask and remain ignorant is a lifelong shame.
- Jigoro Kano