It has begun . . .

[Fmedges]

You should learn the definition of Exigent Circumstances...

The police can, and will, search your shit anytime they want for whatever reason they want.. SCOTUS has fucked over the 4th.. it is utterly meaningless, in the legal sense, now.

Explain

[tmjohnson]

I ask the same questio as Fmedges
How can they search without probably cause?
It is my understanding that if you don't give permission, you can tell the cops to go pound sand

[Ghosty]

Is it like the DUI checkpoints here which are borderline (or completely) unconstitutional when you aren't doing anything wrong? I didn't know they could do that in NY, even outside a DUI checkpoint, wow! Fuck that state, will never live there.

[Fmedges]

Is it like the DUI checkpoints here which are borderline (or completely) unconstitutional when you aren't doing anything wrong? I didn't know they could do that in NY, even outside a DUI checkpoint, wow! Fuck that state, will never live there.

Even so if you pull up to a DUI checkpoint and you haven't been drinking and the cops cannot prove probable cause, then they have no right to search your vehicle unless you let them do so. At school the cops cannot search my backpack just because they want to and my backpack is not an extension of my home. I would say that this is just as worry some as 30 round magazines being a felony.

http://voices.yahoo.com/know-police-...hen-68760.html

[Ronin13]

Funny, I was stationed up there- Jefferson County is the county where most of Ft. Drum is located. To answer your question Fmedges- NY is a police state, they don't care about your 4th Amendment Rights- hell they really don't care about any of your rights, the legal system there is so screwed up that it's trickled down to the LEOs... It's really sad.

[Fmedges]

Funny, I was stationed up there- Jefferson County is the county where most of Ft. Drum is located. To answer your question Fmedges- NY is a police state, they don't care about your 4th Amendment Rights- hell they really don't care about any of your rights, the legal system there is so screwed up that it's trickled down to the LEOs... It's really sad.

Check and balances mean shit if the people responsible for the checking let bullshit like this happen.

[Ronin13]

Check and balances mean shit if the people responsible for the checking let bullshit like this happen.

Well I think folks like Bloomberg and Cuomo prove that the sickness in NY goes all the way to the top... We're edging towards the same fate here- thanks to Hick.

[Fmedges]

Well I think folks like Bloomberg and Cuomo prove that the sickness in NY goes all the way to the top... We're edging towards the same fate here- thanks to Hick.

The 4th amendment goes higher than the state level. It's those dickheads in Washington that are dropping the ball.

[kidicarus13]

I ask the same questio as Fmedges
How can they search without probably cause?
It is my understanding that if you don't give permission, you can tell the cops to go pound sand

If permission to search was not given the mags could have been in plain sight, another exception to a search warrant.

[HBARleatherneck]

i dont know why everyone is making such a big deal. Our government, politicians and law enforcement officers only have our best interests in mind. they would never do anything that was inappropriate.

what is the attraction to some 200 something year old piece of paper anyway? it should be a living breathing document that fits the times?