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    My mom says I'm special Waywardson174's Avatar
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    It's very valuable legal advice, just like "cops can't lie if you ask if they are cops".

    Thats sarcasm.

    Your car enjoys a limited expectation of privacy. Th OP IDs the most common exceptions to warranted search, however, if the policeman has PC for a search then he has it for any and all containers which could possibly contain the subject matter of the search. The locked box with consent is an issue I've never heard of before, but I wouldn't rely on it being protected.

    The reasonable suspicion bit is for stops. It is a lower standard and allows them to use the information gained from the stop to try to obtain PC.


    JMDB, your buddy probably heard "open carry" was illegal some places. There is no limitation to carrying your gun in your car on the seat, but like other posts mentioned, not advisable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adawg38 View Post
    It's up to you if you want to alert the officer there is a gun in your vehicle but not required. Depending on the stop though like you said if they ask to search either way it's up to you but if they use PC it may be in your best interest to let him/her know, you never now if they will get all 50 cent on you lol. And YES you can conceal your gun inside your vehicle it is not illegal. Inside your home and vehicle are really the only places you can CC your gun without a CHP.


    I enjoy this thread BTW, good info!
    Minor disagreement with the line in bold. You can also carry a concealed handgun without a permit while legally engaged in hunting activities within the state and the handgun is not considered concealed. Also, you can carry on any private property under your control or where you have permission to carry without a permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    It is easier to sign away your rights.
    You are correct...it is in fact easier to sign your rights away. The question is: do you want to take the easy route or do you take the "shit" in stride knowing you are standing up for your convictions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    You are correct...it is in fact easier to sign your rights away. The question is: do you want to take the easy route or do you take the "shit" in stride knowing you are standing up for your convictions?
    I don't know I can honestly say I've never had a run in with a dick police officer. Its amazing what a "yes sir" and a military ID will do for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMBD2112 View Post
    I agree with you Jim but I wouldn't expect to get out of a citation that way
    Would not be the first or last time. Unles you're some scumbag skell who has nothign to loose WHY sign away anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Minor disagreement with the line in bold. You can also carry a concealed handgun without a permit while legally engaged in hunting activities within the state and the handgun is not considered concealed. Also, you can carry on any private property under your control or where you have permission to carry without a permit.
    I did not know about CC when hunting and didn't even think about Private Property but thanks for clearing that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Would not be the first or last time. Unles you're some scumbag skell who has nothign to loose WHY sign away anything?
    I agree with you, I'm just saying it might be seen as defiance or that you have something to hide. Do you think the police officer would go to the trouble to get a warrant if you do say no?

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    Is it a pain in the ass to get a search warrant from the side of the road?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMBD2112 View Post
    I agree with you, I'm just saying it might be seen as defiance or that you have something to hide. Do you think the police officer would go to the trouble to get a warrant if you do say no?
    no, unless they already have PC. but they will make that traffic stop hell.

    The it is easier to sign away your rights was in response to Bailey's statement that many consented to a search.

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    Hell, four more years of Obamanomics and my car is gonna be my home!

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