"Your Car Is An Extension of Your Home": What does this mean?

[Kraven251]

I've heard if you have a lock container in the car they can not search the container itself.

This is useful if you do not consent to a search and they actually jump through the hoops for the paperwork to legally search your vehicle. You are required to open the trunk, but not required to open a locked box in the trunk unless it is in the paperwork, granted the officer could possibly still have exigent circumstances on their side to open the locked box etc. If a judge signed off on a search warrant on your vehicle, they already had some sort of probable cause other then "the guy said no."

As with the earlier examples, this is only applicable if you don't have anything visible in the car to give additional reasons to think you are up to something shady. Moral of the story, keep your car clean.

[KevDen2005]

This is useful if you do not consent to a search and they actually jump through the hoops for the paperwork to legally search your vehicle. You are required to open the trunk, but not required to open a locked box in the trunk unless it is in the paperwork, granted the officer could possibly still have exigent circumstances on their side to open the locked box etc. If a judge signed off on a search warrant on your vehicle, they already had some sort of probable cause other then "the guy said no."

As with the earlier examples, this is only applicable if you don't have anything visible in the car to give additional reasons to think you are up to something shady. Moral of the story, keep your car clean.

If there is a search warrant you don't have to be and probably won't be near your car. It will be sealed and impounded until the warrant is approved, most likely.

[Ronin13]

I'll say first off- well done Carl, that's how you go about with LE... Tuefelhund, you are aware that many criminals are caught by simple, hard police work and happenstance, right? Many times criminals slip up and are caught by your run of the mill patrolman instead of some made-for-TV style investigative lead up where a SWAT team breaks down their door... It's usually when they're driving along and do something illegal and get pulled over.

I've been in one situation where I was asked for consent to search the vehicle- of course I said "I do not consent to any search." I received a stern "You're obviously hiding something" remark that led to a supervisor being called in to the traffic stop. The fact that the supervisor was a friend of mine is irrelevant, but I received no citation, there was no search, and the 40min traffic stop concluded with an apology by said supervisor. To this day I harbor no ill will toward the young deputy who tried to figure out a way to illegally search my vehicle (I blame it on cockiness and ignorance of that particular law- not exactly circumstances that make him 'bad').

[Bailey Guns]

This is useful if you do not consent to a search and they actually jump through the hoops for the paperwork to legally search your vehicle. You are required to open the trunk, but not required to open a locked box in the trunk unless it is in the paperwork, granted the officer could possibly still have exigent circumstances on their side to open the locked box etc. If a judge signed off on a search warrant on your vehicle, they already had some sort of probable cause other then "the guy said no."

As with the earlier examples, this is only applicable if you don't have anything visible in the car to give additional reasons to think you are up to something shady. Moral of the story, keep your car clean.

This isn't necessarily true. It depends on how the warrant is written and what items of contraband are named in the warrant.

[Ronin13]

This isn't necessarily true. It depends on how the warrant is written and what items of contraband are named in the warrant.

I loved hearing my buddies son- who's now a defense attorney (but former LEO) in AL- say "It would be very illegal to search through your underwear drawer when the warrant was obtained because of suspicion that you stole a television."

[GunsRBadMMMMKay]

2) By definition, fishing IS hunting. Is fishing the same as hunting according to Colorado State Statutes though?

I'd be interested in takes on that. Also, since the law states hunting activities.......if you possessed a valid hunting license and were outdoors/outside city limits wouldn't stating that you were hunting, tracking, practicing shooting for hunting season, hiking to stay fit for hunting season, etc. make legal arguments in case your jacket or shirt "concealed" your sidearm? I've never been hassled for having a firearm or knife on me outside the city, personally......but I'm sure it happens.

[lowbeyond]

if the cops want to search your car without a warrant or any RAS or PC , all they have to do is get permission from a DOG

Many of you are OK with that. so *shrug*

[wctriumph]

I used to travel for a living in a F-150 and over the eight years of doing this in many states I learned this:

1) Obey all traffic laws, never speed and never, ever roll a stop.
2) Keep your vehicle in proper repair, never a light out or any loose items in the bed, etc..
3) When pulled over for ANY reason, BS or not, have your documentation ready and keep both hands on the steering wheel when the officer walks up.
4) If stopped at night, interior lights are on and weather permitting in any stop, window(s) rolled down.

Observing these simple rules and always being polite and respectful (Yes Sir, No Sir) has never at any time turned into a situation or a request to search my vehicle. Most of the time (four out of five of them) I was let off with a warning and a "thank you for your concern for officer safety".


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[merl]

Observing these simple rules and always being polite and respectful (Yes Sir, No Sir) has never at any time turned into a situation or a request to search my vehicle. Most of the time (four out of five of them) I was let off with a warning and a "thank you for your concern for officer safety".

Whereas I have had very different results. Did you know that WY plates in southern CA is gonna get you pulled over and they are gonna ask you about guns? Your guidelines cannot hurt and in many cases will help but are not a blanket protection.

[Artema]

Whereas I have had very different results. Did you know that WY plates in southern CA is gonna get you pulled over and they are gonna ask you about guns? Your guidelines cannot hurt and in many cases will help but are not a blanket protection.

I drive a modified and lowered coupe with TX plates in southern CA. Would be highly illegal if I were registered in Cali because of exhaust modifications. Never had an issue or asked about guns for the past 3.5+ years. Doesn't mean someone has wont, but it has just been my experience.