what optics?

[mac266]

Ok, I'll admit I'm not a big fan of the AR series of rifles (probably from wearing a green suit so long and dealing with substandard versions of everything). However, my police department allows us to buy our own rifles in lieu of carrying a department-owned gun (which are only zeroed to "mechanical zero..." not to the individual shooter because they're "pool guns."). The department's set-up is ridiculous to say the least.

I've been carrying a Colt rifle that belongs to a friend, but he's been bugging me about buying my own. So today I bought a Rock River Arms LAR-15, their version of the M4. This has the flat top and a rear peep sight. It is designed so you can mount an optical sight in addition to the iron sight.

I'm always a big fan of iron sights, especially in a gun that rides in the trunk -- the batteries never die. However, I am faster with a red dot, so I figure if I can use both, why not? If the batteries die then just look through the iron sights...slower, but always there.

I don't know a lot about red dot sights, always having opted for ol' reliable irons. What do you guys recommend? I tend to like the more open style ones better, not the ones in an enclosed tube like a traditional scope.

[StagLefty]

I have an Eotech 512 which serves my purposes.Good holographic that allows both eyes open due to the large window-large circle with dot in the middle.You can get good used on ARFCOM EE around $300. You can co-witness with your irons in case of dead batteries.

[micah360]

I have an EoTech 512 too. Works great, long battery life and they are tough as hell.

[BadShot]

Two general schools of thought .. the EOTech as mentioned (of which I am a die hard fan and user - 5 and counting) and the AimPoint. AP has amazing battery life and for many is the shiznit. The EOT has a larger FOV, the reticle is more flexible and is not visible from the business end of the weapon.

With flip to side magnifiers, either become very accurate at ranges beyond 100m. Being that you're LE, 100m+ ranges are unlikely engagement ranges for your typical need. That being said, try to shoot both. One will win you over the first time you use it. If you'd like to borrow an EOT for a weekend or something, drop me a PM and I'll lend you a 552 (NV capable version of the 512) to try out. Someone you know should have an AP to let you try, or someone else will step up and let you borrow one.

[Sucka]

I love my Aimpoint. I haven't been shooting it for long, but i preferred the red dot reticle to the large reticle of the EOTech. Honestly i think the reticle is a personal preference thing. I don't have a problem with target acquisition and the Aimpoint, but your mileage may vary.

As for FOV, if you shoot both eyes open (which they are designed for) that is a non issue.

My life really doesn't depend on battery life, but if i was in the military, or LEO, that would be a huge selling point for me. I couldn't imagine anything worse than having your battery die, or the unit turn off when you're out on a long mission, or some sort of Police standoff. That one time it might shut off is when you need it the most. I think Aimpoint has proven its durability and battery life in the field, and that might be something for you to consider. Battery life and durability are a plus for me, but again your life might depend on it as an LEO.

eta: I have a Comp ML3 2moa on a LaRue cantilever mount if you want to test that setup out.

[TINCUP AL]

Eotech 512 . With lithium batteries, it has something like a 1200 hour life, and you can set it to auto shut off in 6, 8, or 10 hours. Mine has worked great.

[westy1970]

Having shot with both, I am a fan of EO-Tech as well. GG&G makes a lens cover for the EO-Tech that is a must, IMHO. I like the idea that you cannot see the dot and you can put a target in the circle and fine tune it. Co-witnessing with BUIS is not a problem and I would suggest a flip up model, it is out of your way and quick if you need it.

Who do you work for, BTW?

[rtr]

I have a couple aimpoints and an eotech. Eotech is cheaper, but you get what you pay for, the battery life isn't as good and they aren't as tough.

[ssf467]

Aimpoint or God's scope in Navy Seals