Still like Ron Paul? Think again...

[Cthulhu]

I think of myself as a Libertarian but have always voted Republican. What Ron Paul said is indefensible. He should be ashamed of himself, and apologize to Chris Kyle's family and friends.

[Bailey Guns]

What Ron Paul said is indefensible.

Yeah...you'd think.

[Mick-Boy]

The fact that a guy who writes a book detailing and somewhat bragging about killing hundreds of human beings, ends up getting killed in the same manner as he dealt death to his book's characters..... Live by the sword, die by the sword?????

Do you honestly not see the difference between killing a man on a battlefield and murder? Did you just refer to the Iraqi insurgents as "characters"?

And taking a guy who's had two trips to the mental hospital in the last 5 months to the shooting range is gonna have LOTS of people question that decision. Just saying.

Do you know for a fact that Chief Kyle was aware of the underlying issues or was this a "hey my buddy/son/cousin/etc is a vet and he's still kind of fucked up and might have PTSD. Maybe you could talk to him" kind of thing? If you have information the rest of us don't please share.

And just so we're all on the same page here; When I'm talking about PTSD, I'm talking about the DSM-IV-TR definition. Not the "I saw this movie once where a guy had PTSD..." definition. And if you were to get all kinds of crazy and actually LOOK the topic up (wild idea right?), you might find that both exposure therapy and peer counseling are widely used tools to treat people with PTSD. So getting a guy out on the range with like minded people for some trigger therapy and bull sessions would not have "LOTS of people questioning the decision" unless those people were so far out of their lane they were in oncoming traffic.

[Goodburbon]

If you hate him and think he is irrelevant, why would you care enough about what he says to post it here?

[bobbyfairbanks]

If you hate him and think he is irrelevant, why would you care enough about what he says to post it here?

Well said, even go as far as to say you are putting words into Ron Paul's mouth.

[Bailey Guns]

Just because someone is irrelevant in the political sense (which is the only context in which I've said Paul is irrelevant) doesn't mean what they say can't have an impact on the lives of others in one form or another.

And people that are hated and irrelevant are discussed here everyday. Why should Ron Paul's comments be any different? It just seems that many think Paul is above reproach, regardless of what he does or says or tweets, and will go to great lengths to try to rationalize why what he said isn't what he meant and really wasn't as bad as it sounded when he said it.

If someone like Obama had tweeted the same thing Paul did we'd never hear the end of it. Rightly so.

And there's no need to put words into Paul's mouth. His exact words are out there for everyone to see. Are you denying he said it?

[bryjcom]

The point I'm trying to make is its not exactly out of line to come up with those opinions given the circumstances of the story.

That doesn't mean what he said isn't wrong. Don't you see how someone could come up with those opinions rather easily???

Do you honestly not see the difference between killing a man on a battlefield and murder? Did you just refer to the Iraqi insurgents as "characters"?



Do you know for a fact that Chief Kyle was aware of the underlying issues or was this a "hey my buddy/son/cousin/etc is a vet and he's still kind of fucked up and might have PTSD. Maybe you could talk to him" kind of thing? If you have information the rest of us don't please share.

And just so we're all on the same page here; When I'm talking about PTSD, I'm talking about the DSM-IV-TR definition. Not the "I saw this movie once where a guy had PTSD..." definition. And if you were to get all kinds of crazy and actually LOOK the topic up (wild idea right?), you might find that both exposure therapy and peer counseling are widely used tools to treat people with PTSD. So getting a guy out on the range with like minded people for some trigger therapy and bull sessions would not have "LOTS of people questioning the decision" unless those people were so far out of their lane they were in oncoming traffic.

[XC700116]

If you hate him and think he is irrelevant, why would you care enough about what he says to post it here?

Well said, even go as far as to say you are putting words into Ron Paul's mouth.

I'd go so far as to say, What makes Ron Paul think it's appropriate for him to comment on a private citizen's passing and trying to make a political statement within 2 days of his murder? Especially in the mannor that he did it.

[Goodburbon]

I dont find it offensive.

[Mick-Boy]

The point I'm trying to make is its not exactly out of line to come up with those opinions given the circumstances of the story.

That doesn't mean what he said isn't wrong. Don't you see how someone could come up with those opinions rather easily???

Attention to detail isn't really your thing is it?

Please see post #31 in this thread. Take your time.

And once again, do you see no difference between killing on a battlefield and murder?