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    Default Re: Colorado Democrats to roll out tougher gun proposals Tuesday

    The college campus no ccw thing always blows my mind. CCW holders are some of the lowest crime committing subgroups of people in the country yet always accused of somehow causing these shootings? It doesn't make any kind of damned sense at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    The college campus no ccw thing always blows my mind. CCW holders are some of the lowest crime committing subgroups of people in the country yet always accused of somehow causing these shootings? It doesn't make any kind of damned sense at all.
    I've only spent a little free time on VPC.org to try to pick apart some of their claims....it's a hobby.
    Since my wife is in school full time and a CCW holder AND carries all the time, I picked a part this one for a friend:
    http://www.vpc.org/ccwkillers.htm

    499 deaths by CCW since 2007.
    5 years 7 months
    averages to 90 a year.
    round down to 300,000,000 people in the US
    your chances of being killed by a CCW holder is.....0.000003/year
    feel free to compare to cars, doctors, pools, etc etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    I've only spent a little free time on VPC.org to try to pick apart some of their claims....it's a hobby.
    Since my wife is in school full time and a CCW holder AND carries all the time, I picked a part this one for a friend:
    http://www.vpc.org/ccwkillers.htm

    499 deaths by CCW since 2007.
    5 years 7 months
    averages to 90 a year.
    round down to 300,000,000 people in the US
    your chances of being killed by a CCW holder is.....0.000003/year
    feel free to compare to cars, doctors, pools, etc etc


    Dems: never let facts or statistics get in the way of an emotional argument!
    I see there's a figure of law enforcement officers killed by CCW holders. I wonder what the total of the same time of innocent targets or bystanders killed by LEOs would be? Denver alone could probably beat the 14 figure. I also wonder why they think someone willing to commit murder with a CCW wouldn't carry an illegal pistol, since most of the homicides in this country are by people using illegally owned and carried handguns.
    Last edited by Rucker61; 02-05-2013 at 18:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    The college campus no ccw thing always blows my mind. CCW holders are some of the lowest crime committing subgroups of people in the country yet always accused of somehow causing these shootings? It doesn't make any kind of damned sense at all.
    Let me explain the college campus no ccw thing; Its not about making campuses safer, its about making gun owners (read: Republicans/conservatives/libertarians) feel unwelcome in their strongholds, thus preserving them as high density leftist echo chambers.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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