Colorado Democrats to roll out tougher gun proposals Tuesday

[merl]

so they wish to your rights based on accusation of DV.. what was that about due process again?


There is also another one I noticed...
2 DUIs within 7 years = felony..

[MED]

Maybe you do???? Senator Lois Tochtrop (D- Thornton) was one of the original sponsors of the State Concealed Carry Law. How does she stand now?

Tochtrop is a biker and a gun owner...she won't vote for most of this. I knew her well when I worked at the capitol.

After reading the DP article: I see two huge victories from the start. They are not pushing for an AWB, and they don't have Hick. on board. From everything I read, Hick wants the background checks and mental health info. on background checks but has not endorsed anything else. If we could come out of this with only those two, I would be really happy. The college campus CCW thing is STUPID. I just don't see how they can logically turn people into defenseless victims and think it is good policy.

[.455_Hunter]

Very interesting that Hickenlooper was not a the press conference.

Maybe he is more pragmatic than we thought, especially with the upcoming meeting with LaPierre.

[muddywings]

The college campus no ccw thing always blows my mind. CCW holders are some of the lowest crime committing subgroups of people in the country yet always accused of somehow causing these shootings? It doesn't make any kind of damned sense at all.

I've only spent a little free time on VPC.org to try to pick apart some of their claims....it's a hobby.
Since my wife is in school full time and a CCW holder AND carries all the time, I picked a part this one for a friend:
http://www.vpc.org/ccwkillers.htm

499 deaths by CCW since 2007.
5 years 7 months
averages to 90 a year.
round down to 300,000,000 people in the US
your chances of being killed by a CCW holder is.....0.000003/year
feel free to compare to cars, doctors, pools, etc etc


Dems: never let facts or statistics get in the way of an emotional argument!

[muddywings]

Colorado Democrats said they will introduce bills that would hold makers and sellers of assault-style weapons legally liable for any harm gunmen inflicted with them in a news conference Tuesday in which they called for a long list of tough new gun-control laws.

from the OP's link. ouch

A stripped lower is technically the firearm.
Question-If you have a custom built, do they plan on going after every part maker?
Sorta shows they don't know what the hell they are talking about....

[.455_Hunter]

If somebody gets the text of the bills, please post!

Questions include- Grandfathering/transfer of existing mags, or de-facto confiscation?

[MED]

As soon as they are introduced, you can search for them here and follow them through the process including amendments and votes. If you search on firearm, you can see the ones so far.

http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLI...h?OpenFrameSet

[Clint45]

I hope the "universal background check" doesn't apply to ammo . . . New York's new law mandates you submit to a background check simply for buying a box of ammo at the store, and your name, occupation, calibers and amount of ammo purchased are submitted to a NYSP database . . . they also made it a crime for private individuals to sell ammo.

[lowbeyond]

Very interesting that Hickenlooper was not a the press conference.

Maybe he is more pragmatic than we thought, especially with the upcoming meeting with LaPierre.

Do you really think he will veto any gun control bill that gets passed ? i don't

[.455_Hunter]

Do you really think he will veto any gun control bill that gets passed ?

I have no idea. I do think it merits discussion since he only mentioned the BG check issue during his "State of the State" speech, is meeting with LaPierre this week, and was not present today. Andrew Cuomo would have been all over it.