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Lets face it folks, the grave has been dug so to speak...
And that is why we will all hang one way or another....

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We can't overnight take back our rights as gun owners, and erase years of legislation.
We damn sure won't if we don't draw a line and start pushing back, that's for sure.

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There are so many gun owners out there who will not compromise; and i respect that, appreciate that and love that. But lets be honest with ourselves for a moment. Is it realistic the .gov is going to remove current restrictions, background checks, concealed carry laws, and so forth? Is that honestly a goal we should be striving for?? Of course i believe it is, however i also realize it is not realistic. We all know liberals have no common sense, they don't rationalize things, they don't see things right in front of their eyes. This is the reality we live in.
So that means we should just cave, and compromise until there is nothing left? I respectfully disagree. We keep compromising and falling back, until what? Until we're forced to decide whether we stand and literally fight with a cartridge box or surrender, that's what.

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I would love to take a hard line stance when it comes to gun control, believe me i would.
So do it. What do you think will be harder, compromising until there is nothing left or drawing a hard line now: that is, defending the hard line with words, money, and votes now or being forced into either litterally shooting back or surrendering?

What is that famous quote? Oh yeah, "Give me liberty or give me death."

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But realistically, does anyone honestly believe the .gov is going to remove all firearms restrictions, background checks, ect from the current laws??? I mean honestly, a hard line stance is a great idea, but is it rational? Would you be willing to go toe to toe with the US voting population with all their emotions and say "we want unrestricted gun sales, to anyone, without background checks, without reglulations"? Imagine how that sounds to the liberals of this country, which might i add put a dem house and senate in office?
You're damn right I'm willing to go toe to toe. I fought for that right and so did my oldest brother, my father, and my fathers before them.

I think the same argument was used about CCW carry and look what we've gained in the last few years by drawing a line and pushing back - what 30-some states that are now "shall issue"?

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Of course i want FA weapons, suppressed weapons, ect ect. But is it realistic to think the liberals would pass such a measure? The money we donate, is best spent on protecting the rights we currently have. We can slowly try and open up other laws to benefit us, but we have to remain vigilant, and above all reasonable. What seems like a mole hill to us, is a mountain to a democrat. You have to understand the reasoning behind our argument, sounds like a foreign language to a liberal.
No. I am tired of playing defense. It is time to go on the offense. Nothing was ever won, but everything is eventually lost, when playing only defense.

What seems like a mole hill to them is a mountain to me. I'm willing to fight to the death. I did it before for my country, why would I not do it again for the Constitution that I am still sworn to uphold? It is a promise to the future handed down from fathers before us. This line now is the easy fight. Real blood will be a very hard fight indeed and one I hope it never comes too. If it does, we have all - as a nation - already lost.

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I must say, i am 100% against gun legislation, registration, restrictions, ect ect. But i also recognize the times we live in, and the government "we have" elected. Disagree with me all you want, but i'm just trying to be reasonable. Personally i would rather fight for current laws than imagine a perfect future, it's just more realistic that way...

I mean no disrespect. Hell, I've taken decades to work through this for myself. But now I own my philosophy and what I am and am not willing to "settle" for and do....

Only you can decide what you really believe and what you're willing to do for those beliefs.

But with enough compromise, we will indeed hang...if not by our own government, or in rising up against a criminal government, then by a thug because we allowed ourselves to be disarmed and thereby become a victim.

Believe me, I did not come to my position lightly. And I am not willing to let it go easily either. I will have to be forced. And I am prepared to meet force with force, but desire a more reasonable outcome. Drawing a line now and defending it with words (esp letters to reps) and money and time seems a cheap price now by comparison doesn't it?