Quote Originally Posted by Sucka View Post
Fair enough.

...Chipping away at the laws in place is, and has been our only realistic goal. The day we say "it's all or nothing" we might just find ourselves with nothing, and that is what i fear....

...Now would it be in our best interest to say "it all stops today, we will have no compromise. It is all or nothing, we will not have our rights infringed upon. Lets put this to a popular vote..."?

...I would say agree to disagree, but i don't even think that's true in this case. I agree with a no compromise stance, a right not exercised is a right lost, and so on. The problem i see with that stance is, we have a lot more to lose than we do to gain. It just might be in our best interest to protect what we have, and chip away than take an all of nothing approach at it. That has more or less been the approach to where we are at now, and i don't see that changing.

I think the best thing we can all do is remain vigilant, be proactive, and keep on guard for the legislation that will no doubt follow.
I think you and I are not very different at all and are talking about the same thing in many ways only our approaches are different.

Would you agree that it could be reasonably argued that by me taking a hard line makes your more realistic (today's) approach seem moderate by comparison? And if so, isn't there a value in that, all other arguments aside.

In the end Pickenup nailed it. Maybe the purpose of our "debate" was only to have him point out, what to me, was the obvious, although, somewhat forgotten. I am not saying it is all or nothing. What I am saying is that in the end, over the long term, I want it all. But first let's take this hill and that piece of ground back (offense)...Meanwhile, recognizing the value in those who are also working to make sure no new ground is lost (defense).

What irks me is when I have to challenge my own brotherhood in trying to defeat another compromise that actually costs us ground - and this may be where we truly differ. That is my beef with the NRA (that and their perpetual money making culture - certifications, etc.). But as others have said, I do enjoy their magazines and I do appreciate the good they have and continue to do.

Sucka - Thanks for the respectful challenge. I'm not done "chewing" on this...