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    I read most of the manifesto, albeit the XXXX'd out version. I'd be very interested in hearing what his family and close friends have to say about this...
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    I read the whole thing and am curious if the NFA part is factual: if you buy an NFA item with a trust, can you do it in a state other than where you live? -and isn't there still a background check involved for the person who owns the trust? My reason for asking is there seems to be an outsized amount of space in this manifesto devoted to gun control, which seems quite aside from his issues with LAPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    I read most of the manifesto, albeit the XXXX'd out version. I'd be very interested in hearing what his family and close friends have to say about this...
    Unedited version here --> http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-c...1360213161.pdf

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    Wow- sounds like a leftist terrorist... no, I didn't stutter. He hates the NRA, he thinks an AWB is a great idea, he idolizes Obama, Biden, and Feinstein, he loves Piers Morgan, he agrees with everything that is wrong, vile, and deplorable in the gun control debate in this nation, and clearly has no respect for the Constitution that he swore an oath to. I hope they get him and I hope he resists but fails to harm anyone else. He doesn't deserve to be put in prison, he deserves to be buried UNDER it.
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    He wants a race war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Problem is nutcases dont generally manage to get a bunch of security clearances and lead security forces in the Navy if you are barely holding it together. I think he is a trained individual dealing with his issues the best way he can make sense of it. Real or not, he feels betrayed and lied to, by people he was supposed to be able to trust with his life, and he has decided to fix the situation. He obviously knows he will be killed, so its equally obvious he wants to call attention to a specific set of circumstances. Sometimes, right or wrong, someone chooses to fight rather than be a victim. In his mind, he is a victim and he is fighting back. You dont have to agree with him ( I dont) , and it is not worse because he is targeting cops. Easy answer is dont be a crooked cop, dont get shot, since he seems to be going out of his way to only shoot people he feels (or has knowledge of) being dirty.
    Agreed on some points. It is not at all trivial to acquire TS/SCI. If I recall correctly, that involved a full lifestyle background investigation and comprehensive polygraph.

    As for his targets, some of his warnings led me to believe he would not restrict himself to only those specifically targeted and there may be collateral damage of innocents. It made me think he intended to be indiscriminate once underway. Not sure of his current victims support that or not.

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    The manifesto on fox and mainstream sites is hevily edited.

    Here is an article about the things taken out: http://www.soopermexican.com/2013/02...-gun-comments/

    He is a statist nut

    Full version based on link: http://www.crimefilenews.com/2013/02...lover-and.html, scroll down.

    some of the "unabridged" ones linked here ie clear channel are abridged. Search for say Wayne LaPierre to determine if you are reading the full version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Wow- sounds like a leftist terrorist... no, I didn't stutter. He hates the NRA, he thinks an AWB is a great idea, he idolizes Obama, Biden, and Feinstein, he loves Piers Morgan, he agrees with everything that is wrong, vile, and deplorable in the gun control debate in this nation, and clearly has no respect for the Constitution that he swore an oath to. I hope they get him and I hope he resists but fails to harm anyone else. He doesn't deserve to be put in prison, he deserves to be buried UNDER it.
    Huh? I didn't find that in his 'manifesto.' Where did you read this?

    ETA: Hmmmm . . . looks like the "unabridged" version I read was not so unabridged after all. The 2nd link by CO Hugh has additional text beyond the one in the link I supplied upthread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHC View Post
    Huh? I didn't find that in his 'manifesto.' Where did you read this?

    ETA: Hmmmm . . . looks like the "unabridged" version I read was not so unabridged after all. The 2nd link by CO Hugh has additional text beyond the one in the link I supplied upthread.
    If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

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    Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you
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