Juan McCain

[ssf467]

You too have a nice life and enjoy the GOP. I'm sure they'll return to their conservative roots if you continue to support their socialist agenda. You can take most of my rights and tax me to hell, but don't dare touch my guns! Sound's good to me.

[westy1970]

Look, you both are obviously just on a rant of the same failed Repulican policies that took us down the path we are on. I gave Bush my vote 2 times and it has led our country to a war in Iraq, soaring energy costs, the worst liberty violations of history in this country and open border anarchy. If Obama gets elected then our country is ruined, if McCain gets elected our country is ruined. I am not whining, I am stating facts. I do more than pretend to love this country, I served for 10 years. I have seen combat on 3 continents and have seen the direction this country is taking. It is time for us to take the country back by using the Constitution and voting for our beliefs. The Republican party abandoned us a long time ago. McCain is for letting terrorists into our country, cap & trade and will do nothing to stop the Dem's from passing anti gun legislation as he is in their camp most of the time. He will say whatever needs to be said. Our founding father's warned us against a 2 party system saying it will destroy the Republic. By clinging to your misguided belief that McCain is the savior of all that is Holy you are activly participating in this country's demise.

As for Revolution, I will vote and vote for the little guy, who happens to be a conservative. Our Country was founded on the little guy and needs to go back to personal freedom, not what the largest government tells me is my freedom. BTW, McCain has said nothing about smaller Government.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

It's all there in his website.

Again, if there were only 2 candidates I would vote the lesser of 2 evils, but since we are graced with freedom of choice, I choose Conservative, not liberal light.

[Gman]

I gave Bush my vote 2 times and it has led our country to a war in Iraq, soaring energy costs, the worst liberty violations of history in this country and open border anarchy.

I don't think you're giving enough credit to the Democrat Congress.

[Richard K]

Look, you both are obviously just on a rant of the same failed Repulican policies that took us down the path we are on. I gave Bush my vote 2 times and it has led our country to a war in Iraq, soaring energy costs, the worst liberty violations of history in this country and open border anarchy. If Obama gets elected then our country is ruined, if McCain gets elected our country is ruined. I am not whining, I am stating facts. I do more than pretend to love this country, I served for 10 years. I have seen combat on 3 continents and have seen the direction this country is taking. It is time for us to take the country back by using the Constitution and voting for our beliefs. The Republican party abandoned us a long time ago. McCain is for letting terrorists into our country, cap & trade and will do nothing to stop the Dem's from passing anti gun legislation as he is in their camp most of the time. He will say whatever needs to be said. Our founding father's warned us against a 2 party system saying it will destroy the Republic. By clinging to your misguided belief that McCain is the savior of all that is Holy you are activly participating in this country's demise.

As for Revolution, I will vote and vote for the little guy, who happens to be a conservative. Our Country was founded on the little guy and needs to go back to personal freedom, not what the largest government tells me is my freedom. BTW, McCain has said nothing about smaller Government.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

It's all there in his website.

Again, if there were only 2 candidates I would vote the lesser of 2 evils, but since we are graced with freedom of choice, I choose Conservative, not liberal light.

Let me say this to make my position clear. If I thought Barr had a snowball's chance of winning, I'd vote for him as well. The sad truth is, he doesn't and I'll not throw my vote away voting for him. I can respect idealism but I'm being practical. A vote for Barr is a vote for Obama and Obama scares the crap out of me.

[Ridge]

What do you guys think wouldve happened if Tancredo had gone all the way?

[Richard K]

What do you guys think wouldve happened if Tancredo had gone all the way?

Given the current choices, I'd have voted for him in a heartbeat, however, he's considered by many to be too radical and, therefore, I doubt he could have gone all the way.

[libertyordeath]

first off, i can count on one hand the mccain policies with which i take major issue (they’ve already been thoroughly discussed). with obama, to count his bad policies it takes both hands, both feet, and the appendages of half a dozen friends. thompson was my 1st choice. he dropped out, so i caucused for paul. barr has great principles, but he will not win. we live in a 2 party system. disagree? name me one federal office where a 3rd party candidate has won, and neither lieberman or sanders count because they were previously elected democrats for their current positions.

of course everyone can vote however they choose. so, feel free to take the ideological high road and vote for barr (even though you realize hillary has a better chance of winning president than he does) while you strap on the shackles of the greater of two evils. or vote for obama out of spite to teach the gop a lesson: that we won't tolerate a leftist and sellout as our <sarcasm> conservative </sarcasm> nominee. but before you do, stick with me here and try to have an attention span greater than a high school cheerleader in calculus class, and think back to how well that worked in 2006. we sure taught those republicans a lesson, didn't we?

prior to the 2006 election:
1) consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5&#37;.

after the dems have controlled congress for nearly 2 years:
1) consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) regular gasoline soared to $4.00 a gallon;
3) unemployment rose to 5% (a 10% increase)
4) americans have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

think about it this way: let's say your house was on fire. who would you rather have show up, a third-class firefighter or a first-class arson? fdr enacted policies and welfare programs in his new deal that have outlived reagan. how much damage can obama do in 4 years? i'm not sure, but put me down in the column under doesn't want to find out.

so vote your conscience. or vote your spite. or vote mccain and cross your fingers that he'll at least appoint judges who take the constitution literally; move healthcare towards privatization/personalization; veto any 2A infringement garbage; and not totally destroy the country with campaign finance reform, sieve-like borders, and green taxes. heck he may even reach across the aisle to the other side for his VP... and pick a conservative?

just my $0.02.

[Gman]

Unemployment jumped from 5 to 5.5% last month with only 49K more unemployment claims. Students have graduated or are out for the summer and are looking for jobs. You can blame the last big increase in the minimum wage for the lack of most entry level jobs.

[libertyordeath]

good point gman, but college students graduating is only half the picture. the real question is: why are there fewer entry-level jobs? bear with me here, i promise to have a point (maybe even a good one) by the end of this post.

let’s get started, college graduates entering the labor force are classified as "new entrants" (or if they were part of the labor force prior to college, they would be part of "reentrants") into the labor force. taking a look at the may 2008 numbers we see:



change between 4/08-5/08 (federal stats)

increase in new entrants: 204,000

increase in reentrants: 326,000

increase in job losers and completed temp jobs: 268,000

increase in job leavers: 20,000

so let's ignore the job leavers and let’s assume that half the “reentrants” are college graduates (previously employed before college) and the other half are from other sources (mothers going back to work when their kids start grade school, retired guys who decide to pick up a walmart greeter job, etc.) - therefore we'll just compare “new entrants” to “job losers.” bottom line is you're absolutely right, gman, that the cyclic nature of college grads entering the labor force slightly skew the most recent data. but the "new entrant" college grads account for less than half of the increase in may's statistics. we can, but i'm really not looking to debate numbers - we're all on the same side here. the point i wanted to make with unemployment has to do with the ONLY "accomplishment" the democrat congress made last year: increasing minimum wage. now let's get to that question of why there is a lack of entry level jobs...

without going into a long free markets economics lesson (because i presume most of us here lean libertarian and we get economics and the tie it has to our political climate), let's role play. say you're a small business owner, so you have an operating budget. one of the line items on that budget is payroll. now let's say i'm big government, i pay you a visit one day, and i decide you're mistreating your employees. i demand you raise everyone's wages by 30% (i say everyone because you can't just bump $5.15/hr employees up to $6.70/hr without bumping the angering the $6.70/employees, so you bump them up to $8.70, which upsets the $8.70 employees, etc. etc.). so now you've a dilemma. you have a fixed amount of money to fund your payroll line item, but i just told you that you have to increase every employee's wage by 30%. how do you stay in business and avoid bankruptcy? that's right, one way would be a layoff of 30% of your work force (of course job cuts don't need to be this high, you can also increase the price of the goods/services you sell, leading to inflation and then the devaluation of the dollar). here’s another fun thing to think about: you’ll likely can the lowest wage earners, and thanks to loose borders and an inept fed gov, you can go out and hire illegal aliens to fill those jobs for less than the federally mandated minimum wage (thanks john mccain!).

i think that's one of the reasons unemployment has increased on the democrat's watch.

the point here is that we have economic morons at the helm of our country. i wouldn't trust this democrat congress to calculate and leave a tip for my dinner, let alone manage my country.

[Gman]

Democrats don't have a clue about "unintended consequences".

The road to ruin is paved with good intentions.