Meetings with Legislature

[Ronin13]

Every one who is proposing or supporting any Gun , magazine, ammo bans and or restrictions are doing it emotionally. It's a contagious disease that has festered for too long and now rules instead of LOGIC & REASON.

Yep- if you allow emotion to dictate your decisions and actions you shouldn't be in any leadership or elected official position.

as a current resident of ATL... we at GCO and GGO are working to resolve at least one of those.
her sponsors are now "reconsidering their position" follow an outpouring of negative response.

Who are these folks being referred to? *YAWN, STRETCH* I must have been asleep and missed what happened...

[Birddog1911]

Gonna have a hell of a fight against John Morse. I had the opportunity to talk to him when he was the Chief of Police in Fountain. He was against citizens owning guns 12 years ago, and I'm sure he hasn't changed.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Read post #12 and #22. When you attack, especially with vulgarity, the person, they shut off. When you attack the fundamentals on which they base their arguments, it gains a lot more traction. I read a few letters sent to one of my legislators, and frankly, I was embarassed by the childish and ignorant attack on a person who is ON OUR SIDE. We have had at least 2 female "Pro Shooters" spout absolute ignorance on national TV in the past two weeks as well. Screaming threats and wearing military camo turns off what little ear they may have. Furthermore, coming from a white male, it solidifies their resolve as to their rationale that the entire gun culture is just barely beyond apedom.

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You can be NO compromise and get your point across without resorting to bar room bravado and tactics, some just don't get that.

+1. People supposedly on our side have done as much damage as the gun controllers simply by enhancing stereotypes and dividing or diluting the coalition of folks who would have helped stop this nonsense.

Thanks for the rundown and advocacy.

[muddywings]

To bump this to the top again and surprise surprise:


Thank you for contacting me about HB 13-1124, HB 13-1126, HB-1128, and HB 13-1129. I am sponsoring HB 13-1229 as well as co-sponsoring HB 13-1228 and HB 13-1226. I appreciate your input and will keep your views in mind as I deliberate on the other bills.

Rep McCann

Beth McCann <beth@bethmccann.org>

[sniper7]

send them letters letting them know if they support this decision you will fund the opposition, volunteer against them and do everything to make sure they don't have a job.

[mahabali]

I just sent more emails. Here is a good template for the mag ban:

Honorable Members of the Colorado House Judiciary Committee,
I am an unaffiliated registered voter and it has come to my attention that
you will have the opportunity to stop the progress of House Bill 13-1224 in
the next few days. I'm writing to urge you to do so. No part of House Bill
13-1224 is beneficial to the public safety nor is it beneficial to anyone other
than a criminal by handicapping law abiding citizens involved in self
defense.

Warm regards,

Or this one


I am writing you today to request that you vote against HB1224 - "Prohibiting Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines."

HB1224 will not only strip the rights of law-abiding citizens of Colorado, it will lose the state valuable tax revenues and cause 900 jobs to either leave Colorado or shut their doors.

Magpul, a Colorado based company, posted this on Facebook yesterday:
"Due to the highly restrictive language in HB 1224, if passed, and we remained here, this measure would require us to cease PMAG production on July 1, 2013.

In short, Magpul would be unable to remain in business as a CO company, and the over 200 jobs for direct employees and nearly 700 jobs at our subcontractors and suppliers would pick up and leave CO. Due to the structure of our operations, this would be entirely possible, hopefully without significant disruption to production."

900 more people on unemployment because of legislation that will do nothing for the state. Not a record I would want to have as a legislator.

Thanks for your time,



Here is a list of the Judiciary Committee members email addresses:

Carole Murray <murrayhouse45@gmail.com>, Dan Pabon <dan.pabon.house@state.co.us>, Brian Delgrosso <brian@bri
andelgrosso.com>, Joe Salazar <joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us>, Perry Buck <perrybuck49@gmail.com>, Jerry
Sonnenberg <jerry@repsonnenberg.com>, Lois Court <lois.court.house@state.co.us>, Mike McLachlan
<mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us>, Pete Lee <pete.lee.house@state.co.us>, Polly Lawrence
<polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us>, Thomas Exum <thomas.exum.house@state.co.us>, Daniel Kagan
<repkagan@gmail.com>, Mark Waller <mark.waller.house@state.co.us>, Jared Wright
<jared.wright.house@state.co.us>, Su Ryden <su.ryden.house@state.co.us>, Bob Gardner
<bob.gardner.house@state.co.us>, John Buckner <john.buckner.house@state.co.us>, Brittany Pettersen
<brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us>, Crisanta Duran <crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us>

[james_bond_007]

Our first meeting was with Representative Rhonda Fields (District 42). She has authored a bill, not yet submitted, and supports all the other gun controls bills. We had a cordial discussion. Her son was murdered as a result of a "hit" and she emotionally blames the "assault weapon" for his death. She admitted to us that she is emotional, and scarred by her circumstances. She said several times that she is "not there yet" in response to questions dealing with the facts related to crime and weapons laws. She is attempting to lead and legislate based purely on emotion, not on facts.

So she is just a dumb cunt. Yep I said it.

I respect your right to your opinion, but I disagree.

Representative Rhonda Fields is a not only an elected official but a person, wife, and mother.
I think she is responding the way Many mothers would respond to her circumstances...
To me, it took a lot of courage for her to admit to this group and her peers that at present, she is not thinking logically and rationally, due to her personal tragedy.
In fact, I'm surprised she even took the time to discuss this at all.
Since she DID take the time to meet with the OP et al., my guess is that she wanted to talk to THEM and tell them HER side of things, rather that listen to the OP's side.
If I read into her statements, a bit, she is looking for revenge on Something (Who-ever and What-ever) contributed to the loss of her son.
Perhaps supporting these anti-2nd Amendment bills are her way of obtaining that revenge and for her to reach some sort of "closure" to her personal tragedy.

[lowbeyond]

Read post #12 and #22. When you attack, especially with vulgarity, the person, they shut off. When you attack the fundamentals on which they base their arguments, it gains a lot more traction.

You've already said she basically takes the position of i don't care what the arguments are. She doesn't know, nor is she interested in arguments against her proposals. You really think that someone like that can be convinced otherwise ? I don't. YMMV I dont fault you for trying, but really with someone like her, feinsten, McCarthy etc you are titling at windmills. They simply do not care

[Ronin13]

I respect your right to your opinion, but I disagree.
I agree with you 100%, however...
Representative Rhonda Fields is a not only an elected official but a person, wife, and mother.So? Aren't most elected officials a person, wife/husband and mother/father/son/daughter?
I think she is responding the way Many mothers would respond to her circumstances... You're assuming grieving parents all lose the ability to think rationally.
To me, it took a lot of courage for her to admit to this group and her peers that at present, she is not thinking logically and rationally, due to her personal tragedy. Personal tragedy aside, if she can't think logically or rationally she shouldn't be in her present position. PERIOD.
In fact, I'm surprised she even took the time to discuss this at all.
Since she DID take the time to meet with the OP et al., my guess is that she wanted to talk to THEM and tell them HER side of things, rather that listen to the OP's side.
If I read into her statements, a bit, she is looking for revenge on Something (Who-ever and What-ever) contributed to the loss of her son.
Perhaps supporting these anti-2nd Amendment bills are her way of obtaining that revenge and for her to reach some sort of "closure" to her personal tragedy. Then she should be fired and potentially thrown in jail for using her position of power to exact revenge or for personal gain. End of story- I do not sympathize with her at all- we've all lost loved ones, my uncle died of AIDs, that doesn't mean I should go out and become a legislator and ban sexual relations.

[lowbeyond]

I respect your right to your opinion, but I disagree.

Representative Rhonda Fields is a not only an elected official but a person, wife, and mother.

So what. Many people who wish to do evil are someone's parents wife/husband whatever.

I think she is responding the way Many mothers would respond to her circumstances...
To me, it took a lot of courage for her to admit to this group and her peers that at present, she is not thinking logically and rationally, due to her personal tragedy.
In fact, I'm surprised she even took the time to discuss this at all.

You must have a different definition of courage then i do. Her version seems to be. I know nothing, i am sad. So i am going to make you all criminals becasue i can. Courage? hardly.

Since she DID take the time to meet with the OP et al., my guess is that she wanted to talk to THEM and tell them HER side of things, rather that listen to the OP's side.
If I read into her statements, a bit, she is looking for revenge on Something (Who-ever and What-ever) contributed to the loss of her son.
Perhaps supporting these anti-2nd Amendment bills are her way of obtaining that revenge and for her to reach some sort of "closure" to her personal tragedy.

Well that i can agree with. She doesn;t care, just going through the motions so she can say, i met with the other side, blah blah blah.

As for revenge? Maybe. But think about what you just wrote. She is taking revenge on you for something you didn't, nor i gather, would ever do.

How "courageous"