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    I've never used lube for pistol. I don't know if it's the powder (Titegroup), the shell plate holder, or the dies, or what, but it spills powder everywhere. I didn't have this issue with .40 and AA #5 on the same press, and I didn't have this issue with 9mm and Titegroup (and same dies) on my Rock Chucker turret press.

    I ruined more pieces of brass this weekend than I have over the entire time I've been reloading.
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    Look at this hot mess! This is what it looks like about every 25 rounds or so. For the record, while it may look like I just missed seating a primer, that's not what this is from. When I check the powder throw, it's throwing consistently where I want, but with this much extra powder loss, I have to wonder about the consistency of the load. Well, I would care about the consistency, but it's only 9mm and I'll probably only use it in matches I don't care about, so it doesn't really matter.


    Another complaint, is that it seems like the powder throw die doesn't always flare the case mouth consistently. It feels like maybe 20% of the cases don't get flared at all. you can see where there are piles of moly coating on the press.

    I do have a question though. Stupid Winchester has started producing brass (all the way in 2013) in 9mm that has crimped primers. Other brands have crimps but I can still seat primers okay on those ones. I have an RCBS case prep center. Should I just purchase this? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...cket-uniformer
    I read through the forum and see that people prefer a swager instead. Is this the type of tool that is too easy to remove too much material? I'm about to dive into reloading for rifle, so I'm going to need to use a tool one way or another.
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    Irving,

    There should be a reamer for the case prep center for crimped primer pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I've never used lube for pistol. I don't know if it's the powder (Titegroup), the shell plate holder, or the dies, or what, but it spills powder everywhere. I didn't have this issue with .40 and AA #5 on the same press, and I didn't have this issue with 9mm and Titegroup (and same dies) on my Rock Chucker turret press.

    I ruined more pieces of brass this weekend than I have over the entire time I've been reloading.


    I started lubing pistol brass after encountering a few difficult cases. it was easier to lube than spend time removing the case. For pistol brass it's the only time i would suggest 1 shot. I never use or suggest 1 shot for rifle, but pistol a very light spray makes a difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Look at this hot mess! This is what it looks like about every 25 rounds or so. For the record, while it may look like I just missed seating a primer, that's not what this is from. When I check the powder throw, it's throwing consistently where I want, but with this much extra powder loss, I have to wonder about the consistency of the load. Well, I would care about the consistency, but it's only 9mm and I'll probably only use it in matches I don't care about, so it doesn't really matter.


    Another complaint, is that it seems like the powder throw die doesn't always flare the case mouth consistently. It feels like maybe 20% of the cases don't get flared at all. you can see where there are piles of moly coating on the press.

    I do have a question though. Stupid Winchester has started producing brass (all the way in 2013) in 9mm that has crimped primers. Other brands have crimps but I can still seat primers okay on those ones. I have an RCBS case prep center. Should I just purchase this? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...cket-uniformer
    I read through the forum and see that people prefer a swager instead. Is this the type of tool that is too easy to remove too much material? I'm about to dive into reloading for rifle, so I'm going to need to use a tool one way or another.

    Try a dryer sheet in your powder drop. You might also check the humidity in your loading area, too dry and you'll get that issue. For the crimp issue i stopped using CCI going back to winchester primers. It could be a primer and not crimp problem, maybe


    Or it could be you're using a crappy press
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    I screwed up a batch of .30-06 brass, 100 pieces. Was teaching the 13 year old and I did not check the first 2 or three pieces of brass. I handed him a Universal Decapping die instead of a full length sizing die and did not realize it until the 16 year old was done seating the bullets. Have 100 to pull apart and see what i can salvage. A lot of the cases are trashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAP View Post
    Irving,

    There should be a reamer for the case prep center for crimped primer pockets.
    I think that's the tool I linked to, but wanted to make sure.

    As far as humidity, I can't really remember if I've traditionally done a lot of loading in the winter or not. I'll try the dryer sheet taped to the outside of the measure tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I think that's the tool I linked to, but wanted to make sure.

    As far as humidity, I can't really remember if I've traditionally done a lot of loading in the winter or not. I'll try the dryer sheet taped to the outside of the measure tube.
    I put them inside of tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    What lube you using ?
    I've never used lube on pistol brass, but I have carbide dies. 9mm is odd because of the taper on the case.

    You able to get the case out? Lee and Dillon dies are easier to get stuck cases out IMO.
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    Yeah, the right size punch and it popped right out. I'm not sure if it's normal to tear up the rim but it seems like that could have been part of the issue since the case wasn't horribly difficult to remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    I've never used lube on pistol brass, but I have carbide dies. 9mm is odd because of the taper on the case.

    You able to get the case out? Lee and Dillon dies are easier to get stuck cases out IMO.
    This. But I'm only loading .45ACP pistol ATM. Never stuck one ever.

    5.56 OTOH... I ditched my Lee sizing/decapping rifle dies, too many issues. Just stuck my first case in a RCBS die. Odd as the cases were lubed, but the die was a bit grungy inside until after I extracted the case and polished it up a bit. Might not have had enough lube on the first few. Once the die gets loaded up a bit, things run smoother.

    I use the Cabela's spray lube which is basically the homemade brew lanolin and alcohol that just costs more.
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