I loaded 10 rounds of .308 using imr 4064. One ragged hole 5 shot groups at 100. I swapped over to imr 4895 at 42.5 gr with a 168. At 100, I was consistently getting one flier per 5 shot group. I numbered and loaded the same five cases five times, and the flier moved from case to case. Im a little puzzled about it, but Im thinking I just need to stick with the 4064. It would hit about half an inch to an inch outside the group in all directions. All rounds were individually loaded into the chamber, not from the mag.