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    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
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    I sent a very nice letter to Senator Tochtrop about how all the testimony yesterday was filled with emotion but no logic, and that the voting along party lines was saddening to see.

    10 minutes later I got this response:

    I'm opposed to the majority of these bills. I agree with your assessment of the situation.
    Lois
    I know she had already come out against some of the bills - but in my email I asked her to be the voice of reason and try to help the others in her party to understand the issues with the bills.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
    -- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmotao View Post
    I sent a very nice letter to Senator Tochtrop about how all the testimony yesterday was filled with emotion but no logic, and that the voting along party lines was saddening to see.

    10 minutes later I got this response:



    I know she had already come out against some of the bills - but in my email I asked her to be the voice of reason and try to help the others in her party to understand the issues with the bills.
    I'm glad to know Tochtrop disagrees with many of the bills, as for her bill requiring CCW training to not be online. I find that to be reasonable because hands on is better anyway, I personally don't know of other states that even have an online CCW program.

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    Tried to email Schwartz but it kept getting bounced back, so I left a message on her website comments section.

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    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
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    Just posted this on Giron's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/SenGiron

    Your constituents didn't tell you to expand the number of people on the allowed list to include first cousins- we told you to vote NO on the bills. Senator - we have watched your Facebook account and your twitter feed. We know that you have received thousands of emails, phone calls and letters from your constituents urging you to vote no on these bills -- and you ignored us, choosing to gain favor with your political party rather than represent the people that elected you. You have ignored the citizens of Pueblo. We will remember this come election time.
    Lets see how long it takes to be reported to the police, DHS and the TSA.
    Last edited by asmo; 03-05-2013 at 22:47.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
    -- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)

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    I like how they said that the don't understand why people are so angry with them. Really?

    USMC 2000-2004, OIF

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    From Gail Schwartz (a D)

    Thank you for taking the time to reach out to my office with your
    perspective around
    gun safety and/or firearms-related legislation. Your viewpoint is
    critical in strengthening our democratic process and in helping me to
    best represent our district.

    In the wake of the recent high profile gun violence that has occurred
    in Colorado and nationally, it is clear that we are engaged in a
    public conversation about gun safety, violence, mental health, and
    school security. Out of this conversation, has come a number of pieces
    of legislation. I continue to gather my district’s important feedback.
    I will also carefully evaluate the merit and impact of any new
    legislation on my constituents.

    I am dedicated to protecting Second Amendment rights of our
    law-abiding citizens while keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous
    people. A comprehensive approach is critical to dealing with factors
    that could contribute to violence, such as mental illness. I have a
    history of protecting Second Amendment rights in my time as a
    legislator even in opposition to the rest of my caucus.

    I am aware that many individuals are contacting me to ask how I will
    vote on current firearms-related legislation. However, I have not yet
    taken a position on each bill which makes your input especially
    valuable. It is most helpful to me if you make specific comments on
    each piece of legislation. I have included a list of bills below.
    Please continue to follow the legislation introduced this session on
    the general assembly’s website. I value your opinion and will always
    consider the input of my district before casting my vote in the
    Colorado State Senate.

    HB13-1224 - Prohibiting Large-capacity Ammunition Magazines
    HB13-1226 - No Concealed Carry at Colleges
    HB13-1228 - Payment for Background Checks for Gun Transfers
    HB13-1229 - Background Checks for Gun Transfers
    SB13-195 - No Online Training for Concealed Handgun Permits
    SB13-196 - Assault Weapon Responsibility Act
    SB13-197 - No Firearms for Domestic Violence Offenders

    Sincerely,
    Senator Gail Schwartz


    From the office of:
    Gail Schwartz, Colorado State Senator
    Senate District 5
    office: 303-866-4871
    State Capitol Building, Room 332
    Denver, CO 80203

    fax: 303-866-4543
    www.gailschwartz.org

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    Received 30 min after thanking all 15 Rs. Too bad I live in district 28 (or District 9, as it were).

    Mr. XXXXXXX, thank you for your encouraging email. Colorado lost part of its soul today.
    Respectfully, David

    Senator David Balmer
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    BE AS GOOD AS YOUR DOG
    To question your government is not unpatriotic — to not question your government is unpatriotic.

    Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.

    But, it's for the children!

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