Responses from CO Legislators Thread

[exxonv]

Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:17 AM

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Subject: Gun Control and the House

I read these comments this morning:

Rep. Max Tyler, D-Lakewood, countered that every issue is fodder in his Jefferson County swing district. "I have to stand up and do what I think is right," he said. "I'm not going to worry about what they're going to slice and dice and run against me. I have to vote for what I think is correct, what I think my district supports and what my conscience supports."

"Limiting the number of bullets will save lives," countered Rep. Lois Court, D-Denver. "It's intuitive ... more bullets, more weapons, more killing. Less bullets, less weapons, less killing."

"We proposed reasonable gun-safety and public-safety legislation, and we've had a vigorous debate over it," said House Speaker Mark Ferrandino, D-Denver. "I'm confident it will reduce the level of gun violence in communities across the state."

These comments unfortunately are not surprising. The level of ignorance to the actual cause of violence is alarming. Rep Court, limiting bullets saves lives? Intuitive? I think not. Bullets are not the reason for the levels of violence in our state – attacking our 2nd Amendment rights (for law abiding citizens) is not going to help resolve the issue. James Holmes did use non-OEM magazines (NOT 30-round AR-magazines, he reportedly used a 75 or 100 round drum magazine). My question to you - how many more .223 caliber rifles were used in crime last year in Colorado? The answer is pretty clear.

Rep Salazar amended the limit from 10 to -15 rounds (a step in the right direction Sir, but not quite the answer). 15-rounds vs. 17 rounds and this will save lives? 30-round magazines are standard in the .223 rifles that many sportsmen use for 3-gun and other Colorado sports. How many 30-round magazines were used in Colorado last year in violent crime? Do the research PLEASE. The answer should astound you. Rep Salazar is the only Democrat who tried to strike any balance, but I have to wonder what research lead to 15 vs. 10? I’d like a sound answer as to what data points to 30-round magazines being the reason for violent crime in our state. What data supports your views that any limit is the answer. If not 10-rounds, why not 30-rounds? You could’ve kept Magpul in our state (jobs and revenue), you can say you were able to limit violent crime (which I completely disagree with – we know this is not true), and you can tell VP Biden you did something. But you chose to attack our 2nd Amendment rights without any factual basis for your proposal.

The murderer in CT reportedly used an AR-15 in some reports, and didn’t in others. Again – how many crimes nationally were committed with a 30-round magazine last year? Compare that extremely LOW number to how many die from drunk driving EVERY DAY (27 on average).

You cannot base legislation on emotion – you should be using factual information.

House Speaker Ferrandino – I disagree – this is NOT reasonable and it WILL NOT reduce the level of gun violence. Where is the factual information that this has worked in the past? We KNOW several states have similar bans on the east coast (and in California as well). Has this lowered their violent crime? The answer is no. Believe me, the Pro-Gun establishment will make great use of this information – and I applaud them. You say you are making “reasonable” gun legislation? I think the information already proves you wrong, and I believe the voters of our state will make the necessary changes.

Rep Tyler – I believe you have made a major error in your judgment Sir – Lakewood will make a change.

"I think it's going to produce incredible results for us in 2014," said Rep. Amy Stephens, R-Monument. I believe based on historical factual information, this will be a reality. You have all played into the emotion of this situation, and so far, have submitted absolutely nothing which will actually reduce violence in our state. You have directly attacked law abiding gun owners.

I want to personally thank those of you who support our 2nd Amendment rights. You have stood your ground against this emotional ignorance. Speaking for myself and the great many people that I have spoken with about these issues – we will not forget what you have done for us. I want to THANK Senator Marble, and Representatives Humphrey, Wright, Nordberg, and Saine, Rep Priola, Representative Holbert, Senator Crowder, Senator Harvey, Representatives Waller, Sonnenberg, Landgraf, Swalm, Dore, Senator Lundberg, Senator Brophy, and others who have written me back telling me they will protect our 2nd Amendment rights. You are my heroes in this struggle, and I will be one of your MANY strong supports in the coming years.

To those who vote to approve the 15-magazine limit, the conceal carry restriction for college students, and the background check tax, we will do our best to ensure you do not run another term in our state. You do realize that you have sent NOTHING through about mental illness? To date you have sent forth NO legislation that will actually lower the violent crime in our state. I encourage you to prove otherwise to me. In fact, you have done nothing but show your willingness to violate our rights under the 2nd Amendment.

You will place Colorado voters at risk by limiting our ability to defend ourselves, taxing us for our right, and taking freedom from our college age students.

To say I am disgusted is a gross understatement.

[Kraven251]

Very well said, and I can keep hoping that some one listens or say 10% of the Dems in the Senate come down with the flu next week.

[TheGrey]

Nicely stated!

[Clint45]

Depending how their vote goes, I'd support posting their photos and addresses for all to see.

[exxonv]

Thanks all - I agree, photos and e-mail addresses for sure.

[Slapps74]

Well said.

[DHCO]

I got a response from Senator Brophy saying he supports our rights and to please never vote democrat again.

[exxonv]

I've heard from everyone I noted in my e-mail as being pro 2nd Amendment. Some great folks representing us. I've even heard from a few Democrats (their emails are "on the fence" type e-mails). I've been writing since Sandy Hook, I spend an hour every week crafting up something for Colorado and for the Feds. Politically I doubt most care, but those who do support us need to know that we are supporting them. Those who don't need to know that we will hold them accountable.

I've never been much of a political activist, but I can say that this situation has changed that for good.

Senator Brophy told me a similar message - and Senator Marble is trying hard to put pro-gun legislation. Our side is woefully out numbered, but we can change that at the 2014 mid-terms.

[tmleadr03]

Thank you for participating in the legislative process, I value your input.


First and foremost I want to assure you that NONE of the bills will result in restriction of the constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms. These bills have not yet been referred to the Senate. When they do come to the Senate, I will look at all sides before I make any decisions.


Please feel free to contact me again with any further concerns.


Sincerely,

Senator Irene Aguilar, MD
Click here for more information about Senator Aguilar



Sigh. She doesn't understand. Restricting mags is restricting the right to keep and bear arms.

[mountainjenny]

I got the exact same email from her.