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    From Grantham:

    (I put in a short tidbit about being a vet and former LEO):



    First, I want to thank you for your service to our country. Without your sacrifice, and that of millions like you, America would not be the free country she is today.

    I will not be supporting any of the bills up this session. HB’s 12-1224, 1226, 1228, and 1229 are all infringements on the rights of the law-abiding, not restrictions on the criminals. Criminals will circumvent the law, because they are criminals. I’m not sure why that connection is so difficult for some in this building. If these bills are passed, all we will have done is make it harder for the law-abiding to protect themselves against those for whom neither the law nor respect for their fellow human beings is any deterrent.
    My pro-2nd Amendment sentiment is not a recent position; it has been one of my main policy objectives, since coming to the Capitol two years ago. I have supported “constitutional carry” legislation in the past, including SB 12-025 last year, that would have further removed restrictions on your right to own guns. I have also supported expanding Colorado’s “castle doctrine” to businesses (HB 12-1088), which would have allowed authorized persons to employ deadly force, if necessary, in defense of life or property at a business
    Again, thank you for contacting me, and be certain that I will be supporting the 2nd Amendment and not the anti-gun lobby.
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    Noncommittal reply from Sen. Newell:



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    Senator Aguilar...

    This is what I sent her initially:

    "I ask that look at what the County Sheriffs of Colorado have to say about proposed legislation:

    http://www.csoc.org/ppdocs/GunControlLegislation.pdf

    I also ask that you review real data. Please look at the FBI Crime statistics. If gun control worked, Chicago and New York City would be the safest cities in the US. Please look here and draw your own conclusions:



    Choose Your Own Crime Stats"

    and her reply:

    "Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding the recently introduced firearm safety bills here at the State Legislature.


    Our nation has a rich history of responsible gun ownership and we guarantee extensive rights for gun owners. None of Colorado's proposed legislation would remove the right of responsible citizens to bear arms.


    I recognize and support the rights of law abiding citizens to own guns. None of the proposals before the legislature would violate the 2nd Amendment as interpreted by the Supreme Court.


    Thank you again for contacting me with your concerns."




    Sincerely,


    Senator Irene Aguilar, MD

    Chair, Senate Health and Human Services Committee



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    Quote Originally Posted by two shoes View Post
    Senator Aguilar...

    This is what I sent her initially:

    "I ask that look at what the County Sheriffs of Colorado have to say about proposed legislation:

    http://www.csoc.org/ppdocs/GunControlLegislation.pdf

    I also ask that you review real data. Please look at the FBI Crime statistics. If gun control worked, Chicago and New York City would be the safest cities in the US. Please look here and draw your own conclusions:



    Choose Your Own Crime Stats"

    and her reply:

    "Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding the recently introduced firearm safety bills here at the State Legislature.


    Our nation has a rich history of responsible gun ownership and we guarantee extensive rights for gun owners. None of Colorado's proposed legislation would remove the right of responsible citizens to bear arms.


    I recognize and support the rights of law abiding citizens to own guns. None of the proposals before the legislature would violate the 2nd Amendment as interpreted by the Supreme Court.


    Thank you again for contacting me with your concerns."




    Sincerely,


    Senator Irene Aguilar, MD

    Chair, Senate Health and Human Services Committee



    The Office of Senator Irene Aguilar, M.D.State Capitol, Room 266
    303-866-4852
    www.aguilarfor32.com
    That's the same thing she has been putting out for a while. A canned message to keep the masses at bay while she votes your rights away. Hopefully she is on the short list for recall.

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    From: Irene Aguilar
    Thank you for participating in the legislative process, I value your input.



    First and foremost I want to assure you that NONE of the bills will result in restriction of the constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms. These bills have not yet been referred to the Senate. When they do come to the Senate, I will look at all sides before I make any decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    I received this one back yesterday.

    "Regardless of whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, the gun safety debate is a tough issue.

    As a 6th generation Coloradan with a family ranch in Southern Colorado, it should come as no surprise that hunting is a part of my family tradition and heritage. As long as I can remember, my family and I ate more elk, rabbit, fish and pheasants than we ever ate chicken or beef. We would make elk with everything – elk burgers, elk green chili, elk spaghetti sauce – and if you know how to cook it just right, it doesn't taste the least bit “gamey." The tradition of hunting is at the very core of my family, as my nephew recently completed his first hunter safety training at the age of ten. You can bet that if I ever have a son or daughter, I will be the first to sign them up for a hunter safety course so they can keep my family's tradition alive.

    As a Coloradan and a State Representative sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I could not support any reform that would ignore Colorado’s western heritage or unreasonably impair the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens. But I also understand that the right to do so is not unlimited, especially in a time in which our society suffers from such a tragic gun violence epidemic.

    This weekend, I researched our current regulations for hunters. In Colorado, hunters are only permitted to have three shells when they go pheasant hunting. This is so there is a "fair chase," an opportunity for pheasants to get away when they are being hunted while hunters reload their gun. Today, we have stronger regulations to protect pheasants than we do to protect human beings.

    During the twelve-hour gun debate in the statehouse last Friday, I said, “This is about kids who have been shot, over and over and over again. I am tired of seeing kids die, year after year, after year, after year.”

    Although I don't talk about it much, growing up in Colorado, I was not immune to the effects of gun violence.

    My high school boyfriend's best friend was shot in Denver on 33rd and High Street after members of a gang drove up and shot him. Why? He was wearing a Denver Broncos' jacket that they wanted.

    About eleven years ago a friend of mine was in the Columbine High School cafeteria when Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold committed that awful massacre.

    And in the latest shooting at the Century Movie Theatre in Aurora, my mother's cousin, his fiancé and baby were present when James Holmes open fired on the crowd. Although they successfully escaped with minor wounds, the shooting had a profound effect on their lives.

    I cannot and will not wait for another friend or family member to become a victim of gun violence. The time is now to act.

    Perhaps the debate at the Colorado Legislature over closing the background check loophole, additional investments in mental health, and common sense gun safety regulations are not the only answers to the gun violence that we face in this country, but it is a meaningful first step. To not take action and simply say the problem is too difficult, is not taking our oath of office seriously.

    In order to form a more perfect Union, we must establish justice, promote the general welfare, safety and security of the public.


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    Crisanta Duran
    State Representative for House District 5 "

    I put the parts in bold that caught my ear.

    She JUST started researching things this past weekend? Really?

    More regulations for pheasants? Um, no. Murder is still illegal. Shooting even one round at a human is illegal. And what, by limiting magazines she's giving us a "fair chance" to scurry away while he reloads? If the pheasant could shoot a gun, I guarantee it'd be carrying a 30 round mag to fight back and defend itself if it knew what hunters were there to do.

    Then she's blaming law abiding citizens for the actions of a gang member.

    UGH!
    Why is hunting and 2A rights in the same conversation? Fucking retard.

    Law abiding citizens follow (constitutionally sound) laws and reasonable regulations that do not infringe. Bangers, thugs, and murderers do not follow either the laws of man, nor the laws of a government. If they did, there would be no crime!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Why is hunting and 2A rights in the same conversation? Fucking retard.

    Law abiding citizens follow (constitutionally sound) laws and reasonable regulations that do not infringe. Bangers, thugs, and murderers do not follow either the laws of man, nor the laws of a government. If they did, there would be no crime!
    Shouldn't be.

    I found it telling that she said she grew up in a "6th generation hunting family" yet she had to spend the weekend researching to find out the max capacity for hunting birds...anyone who hunts knows that. But like you said, that's not the point.

    I'll just say it...she's a liar. I am so sick of politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Shouldn't be.

    I found it telling that she said she grew up in a "6th generation hunting family" yet she had to spend the weekend researching to find out the max capacity for hunting birds...anyone who hunts knows that. But like you said, that's not the point.

    I'll just say it...she's a liar. I am so sick of politicians.
    "I cannot and will not wait for another friend or family member to become a victim of gun violence. The time is now to act."

    Seems like she is more than willing to go against the will of her constituents. It really doesn't matter what she feels or thinks if her constituents, whom she represents, want otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Why is hunting and 2A rights in the same conversation? Fucking retard.

    Law abiding citizens follow (constitutionally sound) laws and reasonable regulations that do not infringe. Bangers, thugs, and murderers do not follow either the laws of man, nor the laws of a government. If they did, there would be no crime!
    Because it's a roundabout way to tell you to go fuck yourself. Seriously even though I still try, I know that you cannot reason or debate with any of these people. They don't care about safety, they don't care about you or your family. All they care about is their fucked up view of the world and no amount of talking to, reasoning with, calling, threatening, or testifying will keep them from enacting their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    I received this one back yesterday.

    "Regardless of whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, the gun safety debate is a tough issue.

    As a 6th generation Coloradan with a family ranch in Southern Colorado, it should come as no surprise that hunting is a part of my family tradition and heritage. As long as I can remember, my family and I ate more elk, rabbit, fish and pheasants than we ever ate chicken or beef. We would make elk with everything – elk burgers, elk green chili, elk spaghetti sauce – and if you know how to cook it just right, it doesn't taste the least bit “gamey." The tradition of hunting is at the very core of my family, as my nephew recently completed his first hunter safety training at the age of ten. You can bet that if I ever have a son or daughter, I will be the first to sign them up for a hunter safety course so they can keep my family's tradition alive.

    As a Coloradan and a State Representative sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I could not support any reform that would ignore Colorado’s western heritage or unreasonably impair the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens. But I also understand that the right to do so is not unlimited, especially in a time in which our society suffers from such a tragic gun violence epidemic.

    This weekend, I researched our current regulations for hunters. In Colorado, hunters are only permitted to have three shells when they go pheasant hunting. This is so there is a "fair chase," an opportunity for pheasants to get away when they are being hunted while hunters reload their gun. Today, we have stronger regulations to protect pheasants than we do to protect human beings.

    During the twelve-hour gun debate in the statehouse last Friday, I said, “This is about kids who have been shot, over and over and over again. I am tired of seeing kids die, year after year, after year, after year.”

    Although I don't talk about it much, growing up in Colorado, I was not immune to the effects of gun violence.

    My high school boyfriend's best friend was shot in Denver on 33rd and High Street after members of a gang drove up and shot him. Why? He was wearing a Denver Broncos' jacket that they wanted.

    About eleven years ago a friend of mine was in the Columbine High School cafeteria when Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold committed that awful massacre.

    And in the latest shooting at the Century Movie Theatre in Aurora, my mother's cousin, his fiancé and baby were present when James Holmes open fired on the crowd. Although they successfully escaped with minor wounds, the shooting had a profound effect on their lives.

    I cannot and will not wait for another friend or family member to become a victim of gun violence. The time is now to act.

    Perhaps the debate at the Colorado Legislature over closing the background check loophole, additional investments in mental health, and common sense gun safety regulations are not the only answers to the gun violence that we face in this country, but it is a meaningful first step. To not take action and simply say the problem is too difficult, is not taking our oath of office seriously.

    In order to form a more perfect Union, we must establish justice, promote the general welfare, safety and security of the public.


    --
    Crisanta Duran
    State Representative for House District 5 "

    I put the parts in bold that caught my ear.

    She JUST started researching things this past weekend? Really?

    More regulations for pheasants? Um, no. Murder is still illegal. Shooting even one round at a human is illegal. And what, by limiting magazines she's giving us a "fair chance" to scurry away while he reloads? If the pheasant could shoot a gun, I guarantee it'd be carrying a 30 round mag to fight back and defend itself if it knew what hunters were there to do.

    Then she's blaming law abiding citizens for the actions of a gang member.

    UGH!
    This is word for word what she read on the house floor yesterday

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