Contact Gov John Hickenlooper direct (Last hope?)

[Kraven251]

Beer and weed... Hmm, I wonder what Coors thinks about the ban. Not that they would move, but I wonder if they would say anything on behalf of the 2A.

[sniper7]

I hope Colorado sees a mass exodus of jobs due to this bullshit. I'm glad I don't work in this state.

[MarkCO]

There is a shred of a chance in the House, they have to roll call vote which will out rural deomcrats which means the END of their poltical career. Only need a few.

There is also a slightly better chance in the Senate, same thing. Rural Senator who votes against it has probably signed their "non-electable" decree.

I am not sure I even give Hick a shred of a chance of not signing anything but the college CCW on constitutional grounds. He might be able to be convinced on HB1224, but the other 2 are probably as good as law at this point.

Recall elections are nice and all, but they are tough. If these bills get signed, there are three paths. Constitutional referendum, Court Challenge, No ammo or mags for CO LE until repealled. I am working at getting company officials related to the 3rd to signal their intent to the Legislature now!

[DHC]

There is a shred of a chance in the House, they have to roll call vote which will out rural deomcrats which means the END of their poltical career. Only need a few.

There is also a slightly better chance in the Senate, same thing. Rural Senator who votes against it has probably signed their "non-electable" decree.

I am not sure I even give Hick a shred of a chance of not signing anything but the college CCW on constitutional grounds. He might be able to be convinced on HB1224, but the other 2 are probably as good as law at this point.

Recall elections are nice and all, but they are tough. If these bills get signed, there are three paths. Constitutional referendum, Court Challenge, No ammo or mags for CO LE until repealled. I am working at getting company officials related to the 3rd to signal their intent to the Legislature now!

Mark,

What about the veto referendum addressed in the Legislation forum? That looks to me like a viable action to overturn these restrictive bills in the near-term. It also sends a HUGE message to the Dems, and others. Most importantly, it places the passage of new laws in the hands of the CITIZENS. *WE* decide what gets passed and what GETS OVERTURNED. The fact it is so extraordinarily rarely used merely speaks to the significance of the citizenry wishes on this particular issue.

[AK47 Ranger]

And if this all passes what about the COSC? Can't they rule bills as unconstitutional?

[MarkCO]

DHC, yes a Veto referendum is certainly possible. Mobilization, funding, etc. can be an issue, but more important, we would need companies like MagPul to be part ot it. They have all the infrastructure with video production, wide appeal outside of CO and the ability to lobby for funds.

It is a path not taken lightly and ALL pro-gun groups will have to get on board and leverage their full support of it, co-operation on it and funding of it.

I would ceertainly be willing to be a part and try to pull in what I can. This type of effort needs a cheif who is articulate and has the support of the entire gun community as well.

[DHC]

DHC, yes a Veto referendum is certainly possible. Mobilization, funding, etc. can be an issue, but more important, we would need companies like MagPul to be part ot it. They have all the infrastructure with video production, wide appeal outside of CO and the ability to lobby for funds.

It is a path not taken lightly and ALL pro-gun groups will have to get on board and leverage their full support of it, co-operation on it and funding of it.

I would ceertainly be willing to be a part and try to pull in what I can. This type of effort needs a cheif who is articulate and has the support of the entire gun community as well.

What about a politician - or former politician. One who was deeply involved with the aftermath of the Columbine massacre and directly participated in subsequent municipal and school response planning. A guy who is a gifted and articulate speaker - and while not a member of the gun community/industry, has spoken convincingly on the record as to the futility of restrictive gun legislation.

In terms of the referendum itself, the primary obstacle is the sheer number of signatures needed on the petition. I am looking to determine the exact number, but by CO Constitution it is 5% of the total number of votes case for the CO Secretary of State in the last general election.

Another problem will be the timing. The referendum must be filed with the SOS within 90 days of the final vote being cast in the statehouse.

[MarkCO]

Certainly worth a shot.

[DHC]

Just checked. The last general election for SOS in CO was 2010. Total votes cast: 1,597,984 - so 5% would mean 80,000 signatures on the petition for veto referendum.

Disclaimer: I am putting this together quickly and need to research it further. As a starting point, it is just OK. Everything will need to be confirmed as I have more time.

[BREATHER]

The reference to "the beer and weed thing" for the uninformed, Hinky started out as a geolgist them he started a micro brewery(making beer) I am sure his profits haven't been hurt. He is owner/part owner in a fancy club and my source says he owns several seedy shitholes along Colfax(not verified). So keep the populace inoxicated(fucked up) and happy, he can keep a portion of the populace on his side and do wahtever....