The road to hell is paved with good intentions

[Melvin]

During lunch today got into a discussion about the age old question, "Which is more important, intentions or results?" I think that this is very relevant in light of what is happening to the country. I noted an earlier thread where a beautiful little baby had to be taken to the ER earlier today. I wonder do you think her dad wanted the best skilled people to take care of her or someone with good intentions and no skill? I think that answer is self evident. Which leads me to the fiasco down at the Capitol.
Clearly hundreds showed up and thousands wrote and called, all with good intentions. And would someone like to take a crack at what all that effort did to stem the tide of ignorance? In fact I would love for anyone to show how similar acts of futility in our past or the history of the world have ever turned out any different.
Maybe Darwin was onto something about the weak dying out or being eradicated.

[battle_sight_zero]

I don't belive our side is weak, in fact this legislation in Colorado and the talk on the Federal level is waking us up. The fake data, misconceptions only go so far. Right now it feels like were banging our heads and talking to walls but down the road these clowns and their progressive ideas will be voted out.

[vossman]

I don't believe we are weak either.
They have been trying this ban for years and this was a huge opportunity for them to get it passed. They have the votes and overall their party wants it so that is what will happen. I believe another member posted that dems were high fiving each other after the verbal vote yesterday. They don't wanna hear the other side, they have their agenda and no amount of logic will change it. Political suicide if you don't vote party lines.

[Kraven251]

Except, I think it is political suicide if they do vote party lines after 700+ jobs either go away or are put in jeopardy. Not to mention all of the lost tax revenue for the state, political suicide is passing this shit. The bonus, we only need to have a few of the people in the Senate to see that and all of this dies.

On the other side of the coin, we need to get an amendment on the ballot next election cycle and get that passed.

[Mountain Man]

I think the people need to let their politicians know how they feel about the issue (INTENT). Results may be out of our hands. I head a national gun rights organization. I throw everything I have at Colorado Politicians and I'm not done yet. They are moving faster than the limited resources we have can maneuver.

All I can really do is provide some education and counter some of the BS that is being put out to and through the politicians. I do the same thing as most people here but I put about 10,000 voices behind what I/we send out.

I don't know that I could just lay down and let the anti's run rough shod over me and our state. Its against my nature not to fight.

[h8monday]

Except, I think it is political suicide if they do vote party lines after 700+ jobs either go away or are put in jeopardy. Not to mention all of the lost tax revenue for the state, political suicide is passing this shit.

I used to think Obama was committing political suicide too. I thought with all the shit he pulled he would never be reelected. The CO state legislature, governor and both senators are libs and our population centers are now filled with liberals. There's no way to turn the tide folks, it's over. You think these people give a fuck about Magpul? They are related to guns, to them it's a win win. They can pretend to care but they don't give a shit.

Personally I'm moving out of here. I'm a native and I used to love this state but now I only feel anger toward all the liberal pukes that have us on track to ruin like CA, IL, and NY. I wrote and called about these bills just like I did with Obama care and it did NOTHING. My only option at this point is to move to a free state. All my friends and family are here but I refuse to stand by and let these people control me. I'll take my income and tax dollars somewhere else.

[jerrymrc]

When I moved here permanently in 93 Part of the reason was how Oregon had changed from all the transplants and I thought the writing was on the wall soon after. I can retire in 1-1/2 years........