Questions to those with a liberal family member(s)

[cstone]

Tell us about your family SG1.

[lowspeed_highdrag]

My wife's mother's side are extremely, almost radically liberal. Her mother made it out just fine, is a conservative, and just recently bought her first gun! But, for the purposes if these questions, I will describe my wife's aunt.....

Do they make as much or more then you do?
No. She has had probably 10 jobs in the last 5 years, and for some reason can not hold one down for longer than a few weeks. She believes entry level jobs are beneath her, and yet has never held a title above that in her 45+ years.

Successful as you are?
Not at all. I am in my twenties, married, have an amazing job, spent 4 years in the Corps, and my wife is about to graduate and become a teacher. Her aunt still lives with her parents, is single, and owns 2 cats and a beat up Honda.

What did they go to college for?
Biology. Got her degree and even got a cert. afterwards in pharmacology. Does absolutely nothing with those degrees...


How much debt do they have?
I would imagine that she has quite a bit of CC debt, as she used to live on her own but really had either no job or was just waiting tables.


Do they use the money wisely?
I'm not really sure...


Do they want to raise taxes others but notwant to pay said taxes?
She is a party line voter, so anything the Dem's want is what she wants.


How do they act? Happy? Or filled with spitand bitterness?
Spite and bitterness for those with more success. Hatred towards pro-lifers, hatred towards tea-partiers, and rabid hatred towards pro-gunners.


What do they do for a living?
Nothing. Mooch of the government, mooch off of her liberal parents.


Do they think of themselves as victims?
My God yes.


Do they still blame Bush for the economy?
Bush destroyed the civilized world, Obama only has 8 measly years to try to pick up the pieces!


How do they view you and everyone else who does not share their twisted view of the world?
As a threat to the very fabric of society, and as a collective group of redneck retards.

What made them liberal?
I would assume her parents contributed, but her lack of ambition and subsequent lack of success probably was a key factor.

[Ronin13]

My Cousin is a liberal, well actually all 4 of my cousins (mom's side) voted for Obama, but I'll just talk about the recovered addict who is the only one out of the four to have a child (out of wedlock of course). Although my aunt and uncle (mom's sister & B.I.L.) voted for Obama the first time around, they got smart and realized he's bad for America and didn't vote for him this time around.
"Do they make as much or more then you do? Are they as
Successful as you are?"
No. She's a hairdresser/drug counselor, still needs food stamps and welfare to provide for her son.

"What did they go to college for?"
N/A
"How much debt do they have?"
Depends on which debt you're talking about- probably a lot in terms of credit cards and what not, borrowed THOUSANDS from her parents over the years, probably still not even 1/2 paid off.
"Do they use the money wisely?"
No, not really.
"Do they want to raise taxes others but not want to pay said taxes?"
Definitely.
"How do they act? Happy? Or filled with spite and bitterness?"
She is happier now that she kicked her drug habit, but still a little bitter about things.
"What do they do for a living?"
See #1.
"Do they think of themselves as victims?"
Big hell yes.
"Do they still blame Bush for the economy?"
She blames Bush for EVERYTHING.
"How do they view you and everyone else who does not share their twisted view of the world?"
She views me in high regard because of my military service, and for some strange reason she's pro gun and likes my opinion.
"What made them liberal?"
Her always being the victim, lazy, and typical 'I don't want to work/the world owes me something' attitude. I still love her, but her parents couldn't get through to her last year for the election, and she's on the .gov tit, so she doesn't want to change that anytime soon.

[sniper7]

Any of my family that is liberal won't talk to me about politics. Something about me being condescending and not taking their opinion into consideration...not sure I was too busy showing them how they are wrong.

[Zundfolge]

I have an uncle who has always been a brain dead liberal. Former hippie that went into journalism (was anchor of his local TV station's news in Oklahoma in the 80s, went on to be an aid to some leftard congress critter from OK soon after, eventually became a college level debate coach at Emporia St University in KS. Now he's got some sort of private sector job working for some government contractor doing God knows what).

Do they make as much or more then you do? Are they as
Successful as you are?
More money, yes. More success? That's a bit subjective so I dunno.


What did they go to college for?
Has degree in Journalism and forensics (debate, not CSI)

How much debt do they have?
Don't know.

Do they use the money wisely?
Don't know for sure. He makes more money than I and lives in an area of the country much cheaper then where I live (Ottawa Ks) but doesn't seem to have a whole lot (which either means he's frugal or he wastes a lot of money ... dunno which)

Do they want to raise taxes others but not want to pay said taxes?
Not sure how he pays taxes, not sure if he uses tax shelters of any kind, but definitely thinks "the rich" aren't paying "their fair share".

How do they act? Happy? Or filled with spit and bitterness?
He's very happy-go-lucky ... blissful in his ignorance.

What do they do for a living?
I outlined that above. Currently has some sort of white collar job working for a non-military government contractor (not sure exactly what he does or what they do).

Do they think of themselves as victims?
Personally, no. But everyone else is a victim of the evils of greedy white Republicans.

Do they still blame Bush for the economy?
Mostly. What he doesn't blame on Bush he blames on Reagan.

How do they view you and everyone else who does not share their twisted view of the world?
He thinks the rest of us are brainwashed idiots and paranoid because we don't share his love of all things Government.

What made them liberal?
Coming of age in the late 60s ... he's always been fat and ugly but he was able to nail hippy chicks because he looks kinda like Jerry Garcia.

I would really like to know...seen a lot of families that have a few libtard in them (great genes must skip some kids) they are away less than successful then non-libtards...
Compared to his brother and sister (my father and aunt. he's the youngest, my father the oldest and my aunt in the middle) he's not as successful as my aunt who frankly married well (her husband used to own the a country radio station in Topeka and they're pretty socially and politically connected there). My father is a Viet Nam veteran who has always held decent jobs but never achieved great success (but no great failures either).

Side note, My father raised two staunch conservatives. My aunt raised one somewhat conservative former Navy medic turned nurse and the liberal uncle has raised two kids (well, his ex wife raised them in Texas) and both of them are liberals. One an extremely obnoxious, angry, unpleasant OWS type (who's probably gay) and the other, a doughy housewife that is really probably only liberal because her parents were and is mostly apolitical (my cousin is a nice enough girl ... not incredibly bright though).

[Katastrophic]

My brother and I are the only non Liberals in our entire family... with cousins, aunts and uncles, its a big family. I'm sure my father wonders often where he went wrong



Do they make as much or more then you do? Are they as
Successful as you are?

I refer to my husband and I in all of this because we are a bit old school and I don't work, by choice. In general my relatives don't make as much as we do, even when you combine most of them... I can also say with a lot of confidence that we are much happier then them as well.



What did they go to college for?

Mostly accounting if they went. There is one who was a law student and is climbing up the political ladder as we speak. Even had some bigwigs like Ritter at his wedding not long ago.



How much debt do they have?

Not sure but the hippie sector is broke as can be. I'm sure my cousins that went to college had mommy and daddy pay quite a bit of their way.




Do they use the money wisely?

In short, No. Long story - the hippies ask for handouts from the family quite a bit ( like a wheelchair for their ancient dog that could no longer walk). One group lives in a house that their parents bought for them. Basically all of the kids are still completely dependent on their parents because they can't cut it on their own, even the ones in their 40's. All of the parents are too soft to let their kids grow up and fail, it would make them look bad.



Do they want to raise taxes others but notwant to pay said taxes?

My dad is the only one I talk to about this. He works for himself and has his entire career as a CPA. He isn't bothered in the least by having to pay more in taxes, even as a small business owner. He is one of the most successful people I know and spends less money by far than anyone I know.




How do they act? Happy? Or filled with spitand bitterness?

I don't spend time with most of the family unless I have to and politics haven't come up yet at funerals or weddings. The couple I hear from only because we are on fb seem to be too spineless/politically correct to say much more than their political propaganda slogans. My dad is a bit bitter, and he insists on using the childish names so many of the Liberals seem to. It drives me up the wall. He still won't accept that we actually believe what we do.




What do they do for a living?

CPA, accountant, politics, jobless and living in a van following some band around, a few artists, teachers, and currently on unemployment.




Do they think of themselves as victims?

Yes, most of them do. The one on unemployment "has worked the last 50 years and deserves the unemployment" that she's getting now. That's what she says, at least.



Do they still blame Bush for the economy?

Yes.




How do they view you and everyone else whodoes not share their twisted view of the world?

I think my dad's proud of us but like I said, he doesn't buy that we actually believe what we do. He comes over and makes comments like "can you believe those guys want to keep their assault rifles? No one needs clips that hold more than x bullets". Then my wonderful husband educates him and he leaves agreeing with us until next week. I don't talk to the rest of my family much anymore but I'm sure they are disturbed by my choices. My hippie aunt unfriended us on fb because we asked her what she thought of the teacher's union. So she thinks we are devils and that I've been brainwashed by "The Man", whoever that is. She's also disappointed that I stay home with the kids and that we vaccinate them. But they are more well behaved and rounded then most of the kids I see out there so she can shove it up her arse.



What made them liberal?

No clue. The Man?



I remember my first paycheck was the moment I started to question their beliefs. Since then its all been uphill for me I've got less family but more people that I trust.




I would really like to know...seen a lot of families that have a few libtard in them (great genes must skip some kids) theyare away less than successful then non-libtards...

[Ghosty]

I went from needing to file bankruptcy, to real estate investing. I just turned 28 and am now self employed investing in real estate, got my 10th rental home after being in the game 18months...

Sorry off-topic of the OP, but you accumulated that many in just a year and half?! Props to you sir, that's awesome, good luck with it! Proof that captalism, smarts, and hard work is all people need, EVEN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME!

[sjl6102]

Sorry off-topic of the OP, but you accumulated that many in just a year and half?! Props to you sir, that's awesome, good luck with it! Proof that captalism, smarts, and hard work is all people need, EVEN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME!

Thank you, after the 3-4 house, they literally fall into your lap. It worked out for me because I was very used to budgeting. Wife and I lived on $45k/yr and acted like this new income didn't exist. If you can do that, It grows very quickly. Don't be afraid to partner with people either. I partner on all of my deals because my credit is still recovering from my previous issues so I bring the cash to get in, the other guy has the credit for long term financing and we partner cash flow and profit 50/50 or I give him the monthly cash flow on the rental in exchange for the equity when we sell it. Either way, it's not a get rich quick but it definitely is win/win.

[buckshotbarlow]

My immediate family is all good, 2nd supporting, and wyoming property seekers... Extended family, males are all 2nd supporters, females are a waste of humanity. All supporters of the current administration, and can't backup why they did it...brain cells do not exist on female cousins.

[husky390]

Any of my family that is liberal won't talk to me about politics. Something about me being condescending and not taking their opinion into consideration...not sure I was too busy showing them how they are wrong.

Exactly. I will not talk politics with my step dad or mother in law.