AG Eric Holder's new campaign: to ban homeschooling

[Zundfolge]

The only reason for the "Prussian Model" compulsory public education system we have in place is to make people compliant sheep capable of pushing buttons and pulling levers but not capable of critical thought. People that are capable of feeding themselves and running the machines that feed the state but that will follow orders without question.

Home-schooled children rarely score below public school educated children even when their parents are high school dropouts.

This (and the recent call for compulsory, government provided pre-school) is about indoctrinating children to be good Democrat slaves and nothing more. These people don't give two shits about the quality of life of these children and only want to break the back of Christianity, conservatism, individualism and Constitutionalism.

[sellersm]

Do I really have to say it again? OK, I will: Agenda 21. Learn about it. See it in action in our schools. Want your child to be able to think critically? Might want to find out exactly what they're being taught in those 'institutions'... 2+2=5

[KestrelBike]

Yes, public education has done such a great job. Home Schooled children consistently score ahead of their public school peers. Plus, most of the kids I have dealt with have LEARNED TO THINK. Not just learned what to think. The public education system is a drain on tax dollars and produces sub-par results.

Most public school high school teachers (according to multiple studies) are barely ahead of their students. If you were to take away their teacher's guides, they would fail. What education exactly does a public school teacher have, besides the piece of paper. ( not including ones specially educated in certain fields.)

And Eric Holder can fuck off.

AH is one of the first against the wall.

[Teufelhund]

Convenient this idiot supports his case by saying there's nothing in the Constitution that guarantees a right to homeschooling, and fails to realize there is nothing in the Constitution which grants the federal government the authority to establish the Dept. of Education either.

[Zundfolge]

...this idiot supports his case by saying there's nothing in the Constitution that guarantees a right to homeschooling...

Actually there is text in the Constitution that guarantees the right to home schooling: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


There is no power delegated to the Federal government to force children into indoctrination centers ... er ... schools. Period. Therefore you do have the absolute constitutional right to NOT send your children to government schools.

But like I said in another thread, the 10th Amendment has been dead for longer than most of us have been alive.

Well, although MOST homeschoolers have the best intentions and actually teach their children the same subjects they'd learn in a public school, there are a lot of horror stories too. Believe it or not, some parents would just claim to "homeschool" their kids without teaching them anything: either to use for unpaid labor, or to prevent them from telling anyone about abuse at home, or to prevent any semblance of socialization with people outside of their weird cult. I agree 100% that NCLB was designed to fail our children, teachers, and schools . . . but if you claim to be "homeschooling" your kids, having their knowledge be tested once a year is quite reasonable and a safeguard against abuses. Believe me when I tell you that "homeschooling" has been used simply as an excuse to pull children out of public schools with no attempt made to educate them.

Contrary to public opinion, it is not the job of the Federal Government (nor do they have the right to make it their job) to prevent child abuse. At best it is the job of the states to come up with laws and rules defining "abuse".

More people have been abused by and failed in government run schools then have been home schooled. If the simple fact that there are rare examples of home schooling parents abusing their children is enough to allow it to be banned then public schools should also be banned.



Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
-C. S. Lewis

[Teufelhund]

Actually there is text in the Constitution that guarantees the right to home schooling: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

HA excellent point, sir.

[UncleDave]

Think Hitler Youth people. Read up on the history of that and you will see what this is about.

[DavieD55]

He wants to change the way people think. He has said it in his own words.

[Clint45]

Think Hitler Youth people. Read up on the history of that and you will see what this is about.

I've heard some spooky allegations about AmeriCorps lately.

[Kraven251]

I move to Colorado, I get back to my roots with my love of firearms...Dems take it over and work toward ruining the state. My wife and I are about to have our first child, and now they are working on telling us we can't home school, damnit.

this is beginning to get on my nerves