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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Goading the left into advocating for a stricter magazine limitation when they were barely able to get the bill out of the House with a compromise of 15 rounds would absolutely work in our favor.

    If that graphic got the leftists to advocate for 10, 7, or 1-round limits, that would be awesome because it would mean they would have to do one of two things:

    1.) Completely scrap the current bill and start all over.
    2.) Admit that the 15 round magazine limit is just an incremental step to further gun restrictions down the road.

    Either way, it's a win for us because the graphic puts them on the defensive and requires them to justify (to their other gun control friends) why the limit was set so high.

    Think of it as a graphic that takes into account Saul Alinsky's rules.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_f...cals#The_rules
    Really? Don't take this personal, but that thinking is so flawed! Liberals on the defensive impose more regulations. Appealing to their world view (you actually have to know it, so even getting there is kind of scary) is the only thing that really sways them. It is not a win either way and frankly will hurt the progress made on your behlalf by the people working their butts off to stop the bills.

    THEY DO NOT THINK THE WAY WE DO. Either understand it and figure out how to weild beneficial influence, or just write the short letters and emails that state you are oppsed to the bills for their counts.

    I've read some of the letters people from "my side" have sent, and folks, some embarassed me. Threatening them solidifies their resolve...really!
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    Mark,

    the progress made on your behlalf by the people working their butts
    With due respect, and I mean that sincerely, there are a lot of people "working their butts off."

    If the conventional messages were "getting inside their world view" then we would not be losing this so badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak Smith View Post
    Mark,



    With due respect, and I mean that sincerely, there are a lot of people "working their butts off."

    If the conventional messages were "getting inside their world view" then we would not be losing this so badly.
    And you have done a great job, as have hundreds of others.

    Conventional wisdom (messages) does not appeal to the vast majority of liberals, but that is not the only reason the battle is tough. I have no problem with posting the truth on here, and most of the illustrations are true. But to attack them, as they expect, just reinforces their assertion that gun owners are part of the oppressors and they then beleive their job, as protectors of the oppressed, is to resist everything we say. It is circular and illogical, but winning is also about understanding your opponents goals and tactics.
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    We can argue about it over beers some time. Let's move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak Smith View Post
    We can argue about it over beers some time. Let's move on.
    Agreed.
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    I agree with MarkCO on his way of framing things.

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    I hate Face Book. Just another cunt billionaire that got lucky that can control alot of thought...

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    You guys need to complain less and spread propaganda more. I don't care if you don't like Facebook.

    You know why?

    Because everyone else on the planet, including John Hickenlooper and every Colorado State Senator has a Facebook page, and if you aren't posting on there, you're missing out on a digital force-multipier.

    Goddamn, you're like a bunch of hens.

    The following graphics recently hit my email inbox, and you need to spread them far and wide via email, facebook, twitter, fax, and carrier pigeon.
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    If there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to buy a gun, there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to vote.

    For legal reasons, that's a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    You bitches need to bitch less and spread propaganda more. I don't care if you don't like Facebook.

    You know why?

    Because everyone else on the planet, including John Hickenlooper and every Colorado State Senator has a Facebook page, and if you aren't posting on there, you're missing out on a digital force-multipier.

    Goddamn, you're like a bunch of hens.

    The following graphics recently hit my email inbox, and you need to spread them far and wide via email, facebook, twitter, fax, and carrier pigeon.
    it's become pretty obvious to me that if I do not use facebook I will not be a part of the process. Now given the choice of people I can vote for my part in the process wont mean a damn thing but it still pisses me off.

    It is bullshit that I have to sell myself once again to yet another company to participate in the political process. Considering my voice wont mean a damn thing even if I do say something, I choose to not sell myself to Facebook. I will send direct letters and email.

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    John Morse, and the people who believe like he does, doesn't give a rat's ass about my opinion whether I post it on FB or not, bitches.
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