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    I think our corrupt two party system is the root of most all problems we face. Its one party away from a dictatorship. And both are bought and paid for by the same people. That is why none of the big issues ever get addressed.

    I personally think we are over 100 years past due on a constitutional convention. I find it abhorrent and insane that corporations can claim any rights like a living citizen. We need to stop ignoring the big problems and a system that defaults to two corrupt parties. A system that makes you chose between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich, is nothing to be proud of. I would rather leave my country better off to my future children. In my opinion neither party is the path forward for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    I think I will effect more change by being inside rather than condemning from the outside.
    That's just a denial. I was a liberal once...then I got older and wiser. I bet our voter registration cards have something in common, but unlike you, I am not in a denial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    That's just a denial. I was a liberal once...then I got older and wiser. I bet our voter registration cards have something in common, but unlike you, I am not in a denial.
    This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. That mindset is why this is a partisan issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    I think our corrupt two party system is the root of most all problems we face. Its one party away from a dictatorship. And both are bought and paid for by the same people. That is why none of the big issues ever get addressed.

    I personally think we are over 100 years past due on a constitutional convention. I find it abhorrent and insane that corporations can claim any rights like a living citizen. We need to stop ignoring the big problems and a system that defaults to two corrupt parties. A system that makes you chose between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich, is nothing to be proud of. I would rather leave my country better off to my future children. In my opinion neither party is the path forward for that.
    this system works best when it is divided (at least in my lifetime). When one party gets all the reins, better hold on in the carriage because a wild ride is ahead.

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    Merl. I think we as a society will be better served if we can figure out how to have a gov that has more than two parties controlling power. Its just too easy to corrupt. There is a reason the founders were wary of parties. I think we need to figure out a way to evolve past the two party dictatorship. I think it does a disservice to the core concepts that the Constitution is supposed to support.

    I personally think we need to go to instant run off voting at a bare minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    This just changed my voting pattern
    Little late there Mr I Voted for Obama 2012 Voter. Little #$%^&* LATE.
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    Nynco - sorry to hear he pissed on your head and told you it was raining, but what did you seriously expect?

    I know how you feel. I voted for Clinton back in '92 then was horrified by the massive overreach on taxes, Hillarycare, and then the AWB. Now, I've been disappointed by the R's and their antics during the Bush years. Both parties are headed to the same place - huge government, infringed civil liberties, and massive debt. The only difference has been how fast they were going to get there.

    BTW - if you come up with a way to implement universal healthcare without it turning into Britain's system or breaking the bank, I'm willing to listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    been alot of arguing in this thread that isn't necessary.

    It comes down to nynco is a (D) gun owner who just got bent over with the rest of us. He has stated he'll vote R (or at least not D would be my guess, greens probably fit other issues well) for the near future until our elected officials get the point. That is EXACTLY what is needed to make them get the point. Elections are 2014 and when CO turns deep red the gun message will be heard loud & clear. We are the test case after all.

    Primaries are spring 2014 (?), If these folks get replaced then the message will be even louder. It is one thing to lose the election over an issue. It is quite another thing to be replaced by your own party over it.
    BULLSHIT HE BLATANTLY VOTED for O, Tried to tell us the D party wasn't going after guns ETC ETC ETC. NYNCO AND anyone who sucks the D teat IS THE FUKIN PROBLEM. His "change of heart" I'm A SINGLE ISSUE VOTER is akin to being the only white guy in prison. No matter how many "Yo Bro's you shout out" everyone knows sooner or later you're getting raped. HIS PARTY FUKED US and now he's coming back after the fact with some aspirin to ease the pain $%^& HIM.

    Unless the R's run a viable candidate the D's will remain. Combine a weak opposition with free dope, free shit army mentality and it ain't getting any better.
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    Inconel, this is how I feel about BOTH parties. Also, I don't like Britains system. I am would rather look at Germany's and Switzerland. I tend to see Britain as a classic example of broken gov on darn near every level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    BULLSHIT HE BLATANTLY VOTED for O, Tried to tell us the D party wasn't going after guns ETC ETC ETC. NYNCO AND anyone who sucks the D teat IS THE FUKIN PROBLEM. His "change of heart" I'm A SINGLE ISSUE VOTER is akin to being the only white guy in prison. No matter how many "Yo Bro's you shout out" everyone knows sooner or later you're getting raped. HIS PARTY FUKED US and now he's coming back after the fact with some asprin to ease the pain $%^& HIM.
    Jim do you really have to be such a jerk all the time? You need meds or something...

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