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    Quote Originally Posted by sabot_round View Post
    Will you please explain to me why FELONS should be allowed to have weapons? Rapist, Sex offenders, etc. I'm having a hard time understanding your theory. Must criminals relapse to commit the same crimes. We need to enforce the laws that we have rather than make new ones!!
    In many states, rape is one of the highest felonies and offenders who are released from custody are under lifetime court supervision . . . and even if they are in a state that limits parole and mandated counseling to 10 years after release, the sex offender registry would still count in the NCIC database.

    Other lesser felonies include: possession of hollowpoint ammunition, possession of a single marijuana joint, having a digital camera running during a traffic stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    In many states, rape is one of the highest felonies and offenders who are released from custody are under lifetime court supervision . . . and even if they are in a state that limits parole and mandated counseling to 10 years after release, the sex offender registry would still count in the NCIC database.

    Other lesser felonies include: possession of hollowpoint ammunition, possession of a single marijuana joint, having a digital camera running during a traffic stop.
    Your post should clarify for Non-Violent Felons.
    Getting tagged as a sexual offender because you're taking a piss @ 3am behind your car, does not warrant the baggage that comes with it.

    Gang raping a 10yr old downs syndrome kid. I can reload cheaper than an appeal will cost the state AND not loose sleep over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Your post should clarify for Non-Violent Felons.
    Getting tagged as a sexual offender because you're taking a piss @ 3am behind your car, does not warrant the baggage that comes with it.
    I have heard a few horror stories about guys taking a piss next to a dumpster in an alley behind a pub getting charged with "exposure" or "lewdness" and then being entered into the registry for that. It seems hard to believe that any prosecutor or judge would punish anyone in that way for such a thing. The registry was never intended for people caught pissing behind a pub at 0200. That shouldn't even BE a crime unless it was in the afternoon on Main Street in front of people.

    When people are put on the registry for pissing behind a dumpster, you know what that does? It gives sex offenders an "excuse" for being on the registry when they try to get a job or housing. They can say, "Oh, not me . . . I was only pissing behind a dumpster and didn't do anything else" . . . and sometimes they are given the benefit of a doubt. That is bullshit. No-one should ever be put on that registry for taking a leak in an alley away from other people. Misusing the registry weakens it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    I have heard a few horror stories about guys taking a piss next to a dumpster in an alley behind a pub getting charged with "exposure" or "lewdness" and then being entered into the registry for that. It seems hard to believe that any prosecutor or judge would punish anyone in that way for such a thing. The registry was never intended for people caught pissing behind a pub at 0200. That shouldn't even BE a crime unless it was in the afternoon on Main Street in front of people.

    When people are put on the registry for pissing behind a dumpster, you know what that does? It gives sex offenders an "excuse" for being on the registry when they try to get a job or housing. They can say, "Oh, not me . . . I was only pissing behind a dumpster and didn't do anything else" . . . and sometimes they are given the benefit of a doubt. That is bullshit. No-one should ever be put on that registry for taking a leak in an alley away from other people. Misusing the registry weakens it.
    This is what happened with the RICO act. First 1%ers then St. Albans charity gambling night.
    One of my former co-workers did get tagged for public urination. Luckily the ticket writing LE understood the situation and knew it wasn't some guy jerking off outside the sorority house. Which then morphs in to what is happening in the public schools regarding ZERO TOLERANCE.

    Separate the violent from NON-Violent felons and things could be simpler.
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    if you have served your time and are released from prison your rights should be restored. If you are too violent to have a gun, you are too violent to be released from prison.

    thanks for stealing my thunder Dingo, just because you type faster.

    Fine, I will add, when they get out of prison, we should still give them a suit and a rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Separate the violent from NON-Violent felons and things could be simpler.
    Personally, I think burglary of a residence or distributing meth should be punished in a similar manner to violent felonies . . . after they do their time, keep them on court mandated supervision indefinitely until they have proven themselves to be "rehabilitated" beyond a reasonable doubt. No-one under court supervision should be allowed to own a gun, ammo, or any sort of weapon. Once you are done with the system, however, all rights need to be restored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Personally, I think burglary of a residence or distributing meth should be punished in a similar manner to violent felonies . . . after they do their time, keep them on court mandated supervision indefinitely until they have proven themselves to be "rehabilitated" beyond a reasonable doubt. No-one under court supervision should be allowed to own a gun, ammo, or any sort of weapon. Once you are done with the system, however, all rights need to be restored.
    Distributing meth should end with brain matter on the lawn, after due process of course.

    I would otherwise agree, except our prisons have turned into such a bunch of revolving door bullshit. I do think people should get their rights back after a time, but how to determine how that plays out is above my pay grade.
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