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    Mmmm, I was wrong, sorry. I asked someone about water issues and just believed the answer that is it. Posted that while I was looking around to see how much some cheap water storage would cost if it seemed like this was going to get crazy. That was stupid.

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    So one of the things to be careful of is being overconfident with water filtration. In the past, I was more concerned about bacteria and protozoa than viruses so figured my backpacking filters were good -- and they were for nearly all of those threats. However, the standard ceramic filter is usually good to about 0.2 microns while the Ebola virus is only 0.08 microns wide.

    I used to laugh at the Steripen folks as the pen kills viruses and bacteria but doesn't do much for filtering out chemical crap but the Steripen seems to be the best quickest way to handle drinking water (as long as you do a prefilter to get the non-living crap out) and it DOES kill viruses. I'm going to have to think about both an inline filter like the Sawyer Squeeze system as well as a Steripen for my upcoming trip to India ...

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    I recently bought this one for a buy once cry once filtration system. Add UV or chemical sterilization and your good to go.

    http://m.rei.com/product/653573/kata...t-water-filter


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehaus View Post
    I recently bought this one for a buy once cry once filtration system. Add UV or chemical sterilization and your good to go.

    http://m.rei.com/product/653573/kata...t-water-filter


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    That looks way more robust than my MSR backpacking filter. I also have a SteriPen. And lots of bleach.

    Silver has hardly moved today. I wonder when and how the new-ish round of QE is going to affect PM prices.
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    That didn't last long, oil is back over $83. Rats!

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    Art Cashin today says this regarding oil:
    If West Texas breaks $80, we might have some problems.
    If you read the link I posted above, you'll see that if the oil hits $75 or below, there will be lots of trouble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Elimination of All Microorganisms, Viral, Bacteria, and Fungal Through Sterilization
    Sterilization of hard, non-porous items can be accomplished by using high heat, an autoclave or steam sterilizer. Boiling heat-resilient items in water for 20 minutes will kill the Ebola virus as well. You can also use a bleach solution to kill the virus on hard surfaces, clothing and other items using a solution of 1:10 and a solution of 1:100.
    A 1:100 bleach solution is used to disinfect:

    • Surfaces
    • Medical equipment
    • Patient bedding
    • Reusable protective clothing before it is laundered.

    A 1:10 bleach solution is a strong solution used to disinfect excreta and bodies, and it is best this is left to medical professionals (CDC, 2014).
    We use these test strips to measure the concentration of bleach. Indigo Chlorine test strips: http://www.indigo.com/test_strips/di...-hospital.html

    We can make up any concentration of bleach we need, depending on intended purpose, and use the test strip to ensure our mixture is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehaus View Post
    I recently bought this one for a buy once cry once filtration system. Add UV or chemical sterilization and your good to go.

    http://m.rei.com/product/653573/kata...t-water-filter


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    The Katadyn is good to 0.2 microns like most good ceramic filters. The hollow fiber membranes on the Sawyer are good to 0.1 microns.

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    There is a Sawyer product that's good to .02, it's the Point Zero Two product: http://sawyer.com/international/prod...stem-adapters/
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    More talk (or continued talk) about the impending implosion of the stock market. Daniel Ameduri of Future Money Trends says
    “If it drops below 15,000 points I would suggest people start buying food and ammo, because this depression is about to turn nasty.”
    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10...ing-food-ammo/
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