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    It appears that these pensions were planned on the idea that markets only go up, that employment is constant, that wages only go up...the planners were WAY off base and didn't account for reality.

    401Ks are definitely on the radar, they've been going up with all the QE and FedGov wants it's share RIGHT NOW. Unfortunately I cannot find anything to support my position except history - what are one of the things totalitarians do, yes, seizure of assets held by the people.

    Cui bono? Welfare rats and 'crats until FedGov stops loading those EBT cards and doing direct deposits.

    If you work, if you're a producer, if you're a contributor to society, you're the target. From each according to his ability (that's YOU mister producer), to each according to his need (welfare rats and 'crats).

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    It appears that these pensions were planned on the idea that markets only go up, that employment is constant, that wages only go up...the planners were WAY off base and didn't account for reality.

    401Ks are definitely on the radar, they've been going up with all the QE and FedGov wants it's share RIGHT NOW. Unfortunately I cannot find anything to support my position except history - what are one of the things totalitarians do, yes, seizure of assets held by the people.

    Cui bono? Welfare rats and 'crats until FedGov stops loading those EBT cards and doing direct deposits.

    If you work, if you're a producer, if you're a contributor to society, you're the target. From each according to his ability (that's YOU mister producer), to each according to his need (welfare rats and 'crats).
    As soon as the first bill get introduced and get s some attention I'm pulling out of my 401K, penalty or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbeau30 View Post
    As soon as the first bill get introduced and get s some attention I'm pulling out of my 401K, penalty or not.
    Yup, if you cannot stand over it with your AR15 you do not own it.

    Calling investments with Wall Street "yours" is the same thing as calling the Denver Broncos "your" team. It ain't your team and it ain't your money because someone else has actual possession of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Yup, if you cannot stand over it with your AR15 you do not own it.

    Calling investments with Wall Street "yours" is the same thing as calling the Denver Broncos "your" team. It ain't your team and it ain't your money because someone else has actual possession of it.
    It's now that way with the $$ in your bank! We, the depositors, are now considered "unsecured creditors", thanks to the recent G20 summit! Gotta love it... Coffee cans & mattresses look better every day.

    One article that explains:http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=29645

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    So ordinary depositors will become unsecured creditors (the largest group for a deposit-taking institution) under the new laws enacted in the G20 nations. The resolution process (that is, the bankruptcy procedure) would see deposits confiscated and turned into equity or liquidated to pay off secured debtors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    It's now that way with the $$ in your bank! We, the depositors, are now considered "unsecured creditors", thanks to the recent G20 summit! Gotta love it... Coffee cans & mattresses look better every day.

    One article that explains:http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=29645

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    Yes! Then the bail-ins start, the government says to the bank, "you may confiscate deposits to make yourself whole" so the bank does it and you wake up with 25% less money than you had yesterday. In Cyprus everyone whose account held X+1 got the haircut, if your account held X-1 you were still whole.

    One of the reasons this hasn't happened in these United States is because there are 400 million guns in the hands of 80-100 million people. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were ahead in that game because the citizens of their countries didn't have the huge gun culture we have in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    It's now that way with the $$ in your bank! We, the depositors, are now considered "unsecured creditors", thanks to the recent G20 summit! Gotta love it... Coffee cans & mattresses look better every day.

    One article that explains:http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=29645

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    Plan accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    It's now that way with the $$ in your bank! We, the depositors, are now considered "unsecured creditors", thanks to the recent G20 summit! Gotta love it... Coffee cans & mattresses look better every day.

    One article that explains:http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=29645

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    Unfortunately, not really new. This started with the way the Obama Administration and Chicago Mercantile Exchange let Jon Corzine raid depositor accounts so he could pay off J.P. Morgan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Unfortunately, not really new. This started with the way the Obama Administration and Chicago Mercantile Exchange let Jon Corzine raid depositor accounts so he could pay off J.P. Morgan.
    Yep. This has been in the IMF playbook for a long time.


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