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    Default Sequester? NO DEAL!

    Now it looks like there isn't going to be a deal, and the cuts are going to take effect...
    From Guardian.co.uk (underlined points done by me, for emphasis, not in original article):
    The chances of a last-minute deal in the latest US tax and spending crisis appeared to be receding after Republican leaders said no new compromise would be tabled in talks at the White House scheduled for Friday.Draconian cuts to the US budget are scheduled to kick in at midnight Friday, with the White House warning it will lead to teachers being laid off, defence orders scrapped, air travel delays, vaccine projects shelved and border security reduced.


    The cuts stem from the latest clash between Barack Obama andRepublicans in Congress over tax and spending. The difference this time is that neither Obama nor the Republicans are actively seeking the usual last-minute deal and Washington is braced for a prolonged stand-off in the so-called "sequester" crisis.


    Obama is to meet the top two Republican congressional leaders, Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell and House speaker John Boehner, and their Democratic counterparts at the White House on Friday neither side anticipates a deal even being tabled, let alone reached.


    There was not even the remotest hint of a compromise Thursday. McConnell, speaking in the Senate on Thursday, blamed Obama for failing to put forward a serious plan or engage in serious discussion.
    "This week, he finally invited Speaker Boehner and me to discuss the sequester – tomorrow, the day it takes effect," McConnell said.
    McConnell added: "Now, after thwarting every bipartisan attempt to avert his sequester, the president is ready to make it bite as hard as possible – all to send a simple message to the public: 'You want to control Washington spending, America? Fine, let me show you much I can make it hurt.'


    "Instead of directing his cabinet secretaries to trim waste in their departments, he's going to go after first responders. And teachers. And almost any other sympathetic constituency you can think of. And he'll arbitrarily close parks and monuments too – all to force Americans to accept higher taxes. He'll claim his hands are tied.
    "He'll say he has no choice but to release criminals into the streets and withhold vaccines from poor children. And somehow, it will be everyone's fault but his. Nonsense."
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    Just goes to show, Obama is the biggest child in our government. He wants things to be his way or no way at all. I really do think that his failure to provide something people can agree on is not just a failure in leadership and failing this nation, it's a failure in being human. He is such a [REDACTED]! I'd say more but I'm already probably on enough lists, plus I don't want to get banned.
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    Good, I hope so. I'm not crazy about cuts to the mil, but at least if this happens it will show what a complete liar and fabricator Beeho and the dems are. Cats and Dogs are NOT going to live together!
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    Yet another case of the politicians creating a crisis, then congratulating themselves for avoiding it. They postponed the debt ceiling until after the elections, which allowed the Dems to get reelected, by making the "Fiscal Cliff" deal in which tax cuts would be allowed to expire in exchange for certain spending cuts. Now the Dems don't want to abide by the deal. Classic incrimentalism. They made the deal knowing full well the consequences, but want to renegotiate before they suffer those consequences, like a 5 year old that's about to be grounded...
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    Good, this mess was originally BO's idea and he has twisted it to where he is trying to blame the R's.
    Let it backfire on him.
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    Rep Gomert was on the radio today saying Tax paying Americans took a 2% hit Jan 1st with the increase in payroll taxes and people had to tighten their belts but no one was going bankrupt because of it. Sequester cuts less than 2% of the federal budget so if Americans can survive with less than so can the federal govt. was also brought up that CBO estimates cuts more to the tune of 43 billion, that's less than the Feds pumped into GM to save them. If GM is "roaring back" then subsidize the loss of 43 billion by selling our stake in GM and there would still be 7 billion left over.

    BHO proposed the cuts and now wants to vilify republicans for it, so much for ending name calling, compromise, and bipartisanship.
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    yup, just got the brief from my O-6 today at lunch about the rules and such....will be a bumpy ride! Glad I could help save 2-3% of the budget with my 20% pay cut.
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    Didn't the release of X amount of illegals cover the issues?

    Supposedly, the crisis is about monies not yet in play that were going to be used for this years budget. How can you say there is a crisis when the monies in question have not been allocated yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    yup, just got the brief from my O-6 today at lunch about the rules and such....will be a bumpy ride! Glad I could help save 2-3% of the budget with my 20% pay cut.
    Is that across the board- base pay reductions by 20%? Are you f*cking kidding me!? How has this administration not been thrown out (by any means)?
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    43 million of a 3.6 trillion budget........"draconian"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Now it looks like there isn't going to be a deal, and the cuts are going to take effect...
    Good, glad to hear it.

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