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    Beck had a book a few years back with a title that pretty much sums up this thread.

    What was it now?

    Progressive ideology, ideas so good they must be mandatory.
    Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.

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    You know who calls names to win arguments? Liberals. Also children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    In short - "I see you've got a legal open carry gun so I need to check your id to make sure you're not a criminal", is the exact same as pulling someone over for following the speed limit and doing the exact same thing. Completely not acceptable.

    Im not in LEO but I think the term is reasonable suspicion. You can be pulled over while driving the speed limit if the cop has reason to suspect you might be danger to the general public.

    Again the intent of this individual makes all the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    In short - "I see you've got a legal open carry gun so I need to check your id to make sure you're not a criminal", is the exact same as pulling someone over for following the speed limit and doing the exact same thing. Completely not acceptable.
    A GUN and a CAR are NOT THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    You know who calls names to win arguments? Liberals. Also children.
    Ya know who makes silly comparisons that don't work? Stupid people with stupid arguments...

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    The Police aren't there to be lectured about court cases and past precedence and blah blah blah..... That's why we have the judicial system. Rational people should explain their position to the officer, and the officer can then make a judgement call as to whether a law has been broken. That's what they get trained to do.

    One interpretation might be that the guy was acting like a tard on the video. He was waiting for the cop to react so he could catch it on video. The other side of the coin may be that the guy in the video might legitimately feel the need to have his own evidence if/when he gets arrested.

    The cop didn't take the bait, and I think that says something about him. However (the cop is not quite off the hook), he didn't know the law and he got called on it. The other side of it is this: Cops know that they are going to deal with tards pretty much all day every day. No one is forcing him to be a cop. To say that he doesn't deserve that, I agree. HOWEVER, he is free to choose another profession.

    This is simply video proof of the hazards of being both a law-abiding open-carrying gun owner in today's society, both on the cop's side and the citizen's side.
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    I don't think having a gun, which every cop knows (or should know) is legal to open carry, is reasonable suspicion that you're committing a crime. What could you possibly ask a dude carrying a pistol on his hip? "You robbing this place?" "You going to kill someone?" No. They ask for his ID to make sure he's not a criminal. That's unacceptable because he wasn't doing anything illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    A GUN and a CAR are NOT THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ya know who makes silly comparisons that don't work? Stupid people with stupid arguments...
    Not talking to you anymore. People who try to win arguments like this don't deserve my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    I don't think having a gun, which every cop knows (or should know) is legal to open carry, is reasonable suspicion that you're committing a crime. What could you possibly ask a dude carrying a pistol on his hip? "You robbing this place?" "You going to kill someone?" No. They ask for his ID to make sure he's not a criminal. That's unacceptable because he wasn't doing anything illegal.
    What could you ask? You could ask anything you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    Not talking to you anymore. People who try to win arguments like this don't deserve my time.
    Ooohhh shit... Like I haven't heard that one before...

    Since you missed it, I'll spell it out for you... I don't need to win this argument. I don't care if I win this argument. You care more than I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    What could you ask? You could ask anything you want.
    Am I required to respond if I get asked questions when it's already been established that I'm not being detained.....

    The cop can terry frisk you, but that's pretty much where it stops, I think.
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