Complaint against RMGO lobbyist

[spqrzilla]

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/...mplaint/91730/

An example of why Dudley Brown's involvement in the civil union stuff is backfiring on us.

[Ronin13]

I'm very tempted to cease support for RMGO... Dudley (and I don't give a shit if he reads this or not) is being an asshole. Looking at the numbers, in the gun control debate, 100% of republicans are opposed (perhaps going party line, but still), and yet this asshat pressures them... He needs to be doing that to the dems, not our own. Dick move if you ask me, and no one likes a person who is being an asshole.

[TFOGGER]

I flat don't give a shit about civil unions. What people do in their own lives is their business, as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights. RMGO is a gun rights organization, and should restrict their lobbying efforts to that goal. I support them in that endeavor, and encourage others to do so as well.

[Musashi]

I agree with Tfogger. What you do doesn't concern me as long as it doesn't affect me negatively. RMGO needs to focus on the task at hand as that is its reason for existence last I checked...and we seem to have our hands full at the moment.
FOCUS

[sniper7]

You get one article that shows one side. Big fucking deal. Don't you think the media loves to blow this stuff out of the water so people questions rmgo. Anyone that is complaining needs to stfu. Look at the radio ads, the emails trying to get people involved, the events set up, the organization they are doing to help fight these bills off. If you don't think rmgo is doing a lot (definitely a lot more than the NRA is doing for us right now), you have your head up your ass.

[jslo]

^this. At least wait for a rebuttal or the "facts" to come out of the hearings

[XC700116]

Ya know, I've supported RMGO and am a member, but this kind of crap is exactly why I'm reconsiddering. Their purpose is NOT worrying about Civil Unions and IMO if Dudley can't separate himself from Party Line politics, it's a detriment to the purpose of RMGO because of shit like this. You don't see the executive director of the NRA sending out flyers about non gun issues left and right, and you don't see them beating other gun organizations over the head about what they percieve as compromise.

Dudley has repeatedly spent more effort to discredit other gun rights advocate groups than anyone else and IMO it's BS. That is for the membership of those organizations to take the leaders to task on. RMGO throwing mud at them just makes RMGO look like asses. You can get away with it in the times where your party is in control, but like it or not we NEED some Democrats to help us in this fight, if they resort to party line, we're screwed. Pressuring those already on our side because they aren't conservative enough on other issues is detrimental to the cause.

That's why you don't see NRA lobyists lobbying on other issues, it's not their business and they will lose support for the cause they are supposed to be lobbying for if they do. Our gun rights will never be secure as long as we allow groups like RMGO to force it into party politics. Nationally, our rights were never (in recent times post 1986) as safe as they were in the mid 2000's after the Dems got their tails handed to them after the 94 ban. They learned from it, and now they are testing the waters again, but with them in the majority, if the gun rights groups aren't together on this, and not concerned with other issues, we'll lose again. Do I wish we had a bunch of real conservatives controling the govt? yeah, but the reality is that we don't and we need the help of pro-gun dems to keep from losing our asses on this. Dudley needs to decide what his cause is first and foremost and leave it at that. If it's gun rights, which is why he has membership, then it needs to stay at that. If he can't do that, then he needs to put somone else in the place of executive director, and move on to something more broad in scope. RMGO shouldn't be associated with any other form or lobbying besides gun rights if it's going to be effective during times when the republicans don't control at least 1 of the chambers of the assembly.

I see and appreciate RMGO's efforts, but honestly when the leader of "CO's Gun rights group" is throwing mud at the NRA, are you really surprised the NRA isn't going to bat for us full tilt here in CO? The NRA bashing and mud throwing he's doing needs to stop. He's acting like the jealous girl at the prom that throws punch on the prom queen's dress because she didn't win.

[Ronin13]

You get one article that shows one side. Big fucking deal. Don't you think the media loves to blow this stuff out of the water so people questions rmgo. Anyone that is complaining needs to stfu. Look at the radio ads, the emails trying to get people involved, the events set up, the organization they are doing to help fight these bills off. If you don't think rmgo is doing a lot (definitely a lot more than the NRA is doing for us right now), you have your head up your ass.

I was more speaking about the lobbyist threatening Cheri Gerou. And everything XC700116 said is SPOT ON!!!

[sniper7]

I was more speaking about the lobbyist threatening Cheri Gerou. And everything XC700116 said is SPOT ON!!!

Yeah I agree the bashing of the NRA needs to stop. But I also think the NRA needs to get a bulldog stance for us right now. Start throwing some weight around.
and when things turn around and the republicans own the state (if this ever happens), they need to make sure every single one of these bullshit bills are reversed plus some. I still believe they need to reverse the 1986 full auto ban on new manufactured guns. It's ludicrous that you can own one made before 1986 but not one now.

Dont think so....imagine 27 years from now if 30 round mags are in the same boat. You can own them as long as they were made before 2013, but not after....

[XC700116]

Yeah I agree the bashing of the NRA needs to stop. But I also think the NRA needs to get a bulldog stance for us right now. Start throwing some weight around.
and when things turn around and the republicans own the state (if this ever happens), they need to make sure every single one of these bullshit bills are reversed plus some. I still believe they need to reverse the 1986 full auto ban on new manufactured guns. It's ludicrous that you can own one made before 1986 but not one now.

Dont think so....imagine 27 years from now if 30 round mags are in the same boat. You can own them as long as they were made before 2013, but not after....

Agreed on all counts there.