Discussion for all the internet lawyers regarding possible mag limits and state lines.

[buckshotbarlow]

Really? Apparently you haven't attempted to buy any PMAGs recently... Some of us don't want to buy PMAGs for $60+, and with them being so badly backordered it would seem that anyone wanting Gen3 windowed PMAGs in this state will probably be SOL.

neve's has them for 22$ windowed and 20$ for non windowed...

[merl]

I'm not concerned about AR mags at all, more concerned about other specialized/ handgun mags. But that's just me being selfish, have enough to last my lifetime.

But... anyone that turns 18/21 next year and wants an AR or Glock 17 is going to have a tough time getting mags. In 18 years it'll be obvious anyone 18- with one has them illegally. This is AWB lite, they knew the votes were not there to outright ban any weapons so they demonized mags.

Of course this doesn't apply to criminals, a stolen gun usually comes with a stolen mag or 2.

And Audrey has it right on how to enforce. Setup a week and bust a few people, hype it, then repeat in 2 years.

[Lurch]

They don't enforce the gun laws that are on the books now what makes you think they will enforce these?

[spqrzilla]

Magpul needs to date stamp their magazines to track the wear on their molds. If a Federal ban is passed, then they will need to code their magazines for sale to LEO and military. So you are not going to see Magpul change that in all probability.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Treat me like a criminal.. maybe I should think like one.

[Kraven251]

If you were to buy them out of state and then bring them back to CO ...just disassemble them. The current way that crap-tacular law is written up it isn't limiting unassembled kits.

You would be legal until you put them back together. Transportation problem solved, problem staying solved.

[Goodburbon]

I cross state lines with Mags all the time.

ETA

I'm not adjusting my normal practices to adhere to someone else's sudden determination that I may be a criminal for such behavior.

[wreave]

Learn this phrase: "I'm not consenting to any searches." Rinse and repeat.

People who get caught by these "gotcha" laws make the mistake of allowing a search. Driving across the border is not reasonable suspicion for a search. Refusing a search is not reasonable suspicion for a search. Decline the search, accept a ticket if the officer wants to write you one for speeding or whatnot, and move on.

That having been said, other alternatives are:
a) stock up on mags prior to 7/1;
b) don't do something so obvious as drive up to a borderside magazine stand (ha!) and buy stuff then cross back over.

[mrghost]

Learn this phrase: "I'm not consenting to any searches." Rinse and repeat.

People who get caught by these "gotcha" laws make the mistake of allowing a search. Driving across the border is not reasonable suspicion for a search. Refusing a search is not reasonable suspicion for a search. Decline the search, accept a ticket if the officer wants to write you one for speeding or whatnot, and move on.

That having been said, other alternatives are:
a) stock up on mags prior to 7/1;
b) don't do something so obvious as drive up to a borderside magazine stand (ha!) and buy stuff then cross back over.

Yup, there's going to be "Whistling Pete's Fireworks & Magazines" stands across the border!

[Clint45]

Learn this phrase: "I'm not consenting to any searches." Rinse and repeat.

People who get caught by these "gotcha" laws make the mistake of allowing a search. Driving across the border is not reasonable suspicion for a search. Refusing a search is not reasonable suspicion for a search. Decline the search, accept a ticket if the officer wants to write you one for speeding or whatnot, and move on.

Uh . . . you clearly do not understand the nature of an unlawful vehicle search as conduced in a police state. We do not, now, have a police state in Colorado. Vehicle searches are rare here, absent a crime having been committed and reported, giving probable cause. In NY, IL, NJ, and DC things are different. A cop pulls you over for a minor offense or no reason at all, then asks if you will exit the vehicle and consent to a search. If you refuse, he will not let you go. If you drive away you will probably be shot. One of two things will happen. Either you will be ordered out of the car at gunpoint and proned out on the side of the road and cuffed, or, if you get a good cop, you will be forced to wait for over an hour until a supervisor and a K9 unit show up, then be lectured for another hour about "wasting time and resources" while flashlights are shined in every window and under your car and it is circled by the K9 . . . and if that dog barks (simple hand signal) they now have reasonable cause for a search.

Oh, have fun spending over $50K to sue them in court. It will be the word of several policemen against yours, and in a police state the policeman's word carries a lot more weight and is rarely questioned.

Colorado is not like that yet. Even the infamous DPD do not act in such a manner. NYPD and NYSP play by an entirely different set of rules . . . and they have the full support of the courts and politicians. Your "Constitutional rights" are void in states that do not recognize them, and such searches have been upheld when challenged.