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    Default Anti-government extremist groups increasing, say experts

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/us/spl...nn-disqus-area

    (CNN) -- The number of American "patriot" extremist groups has reached a record level, according to a new study, and experts are warning of a wave of anti-government violence.
    A report released Tuesday by the Southern Poverty Law Centercounted 1,360 "patriot" extremist groups in 2012 -- up by 7% from 2011. The study defines patriot groups as anti-government militias driven by their fear that authorities will strip them of their guns and liberties.
    "They believe the Constitution is being raped. With hate groups, things are going to get worse because they feel like they're in battle," said David Gletty a former FBI informant who spent time undercover with various militia and extremist groups. "It's not surprising with their hatred of President (Barack) Obama that there are even more hate groups out there."
    The study said California has the most patriot extremist groups, with 81.
    The SPLC report also offers a bit of good news: The number of "immigrant-bashing" extremist groups -- so-called nativism organizations -- is way down from 2011, falling by 88%.
    'Patriot' groups 1995-2012 (click to expand)



    Related: Oberlin College cancels classes to address racial incidents
    The new statistics come after a string of crimes linked to extremist groups. A year ago, a Michigan militia leader and his son pleaded guilty to federal gun charges. Last August, a 40-year-old ex-soldier-turned singer for a white supremacist rock band shot up a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, killing six people, before taking his own life. A few weeks later, a group of Georgia men was linked to an anti-government militia plot to assassinate Obama.
    Obama's election as the first African-American president and his pro-gun control stance have fueled the increase in anti-government groups, according to the report.
    The rise in such groups echoes a period almost 20 years ago around the time when Congress passed the 1993 Brady Bill and the 1994 ban on assault weapons, the SPLC said. That legislation came near a period of infamous and deadly anti-government violence in Waco, Texas; Ruby Ridge, Idaho; and Oklahoma City, "and led to the first wave of the patriot movement," the report said.
    They are in a battle in their minds. Their backs are against the wall.
    David Gletty, ex-FBI informant




    "They are in a battle in their minds," Gletty warned. "Their backs are against the wall."
    Right now, most of the fringe elements characterized in this report hate the government more than they do specific races. They hate everyone, Gletty said.
    Now a private investigator, Gletty spent years undercover as an FBI informant watching the internal workings of white supremacist groups.
    The groups named in the SPLC study came from information compiled from "field reports, Patriot publications, the Internet, law enforcement sources and news reports."
    Other highlights of the report include:
    -- The state with the most neo-Nazi groups: California, with 9.
    -- The state with the most Ku Klux Klan groups: Texas, with 26.
    -- The report breaks out a group it calls "Christian Identity," which the SLPC defines as "a religion that is fundamentally racist and anti-Semitic." Texas has the most, with five.
    -- Another category in the report, called "General Hate," is defined as groups that are anti-gay, Holocaust deniers, racist musicians or radical traditionalist Catholics. California has the most such groups, with 37.
    "The country needs to do better," the report's author, Mark Potok, wrote in an editorial. The Department of Homeland Security, he said, needs to act to avoid a repeat of the kind of hate-based violence the nation saw in the 1990s.



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    Now what the hell could cause this to be happening?.......................
    "An individual is only entiteld to one's rights as long as one respects the rights of others."...R.F.

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    the violence at Ruby Ridge and Waco, wasnt anti government violence. It was violence DONE by the government against innocents. nice propaganda though.
    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    The rise in such groups echoes a period almost 20 years ago around the time when Congress passed the 1993 Brady Bill and the 1994 ban on assault weapons, the SPLC said. That legislation came near a period of infamous and deadly anti-government violence in Waco, Texas; Ruby Ridge, Idaho; and Oklahoma City, "and led to the first wave of the patriot movement," the report said



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    Keep rattling the cage and eventually the door opens and you get bit.

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    Default Anti-government extremist groups increasing, say experts

    Anything that uses the SPLC as a source loses all credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wARmachine15 View Post
    Anything that uses the SPLC as a source loses all credibility.
    CNN quoting SPLC = double win
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wARmachine15 View Post
    Anything that uses the SPLC as a source loses all credibility.
    Southern Poverty Lie Center....nothing more...

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    Okay, I'll play!
    "How many of these describe you:



    • Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers) -Yes
    • Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit) -Yes
    • Survivalist literature (fictional books such as “Patriots” and “One Second After” are mentioned by name) -Yes
    • Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies) -Yes
    • Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items) -Not really
    • Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ) -I believe there will be an apocalypse someday, and I do believe in the anti-Christ... not entirely sure they'll occur anytime soon.
    • Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government -I don't exactly fear the government, but I fear that they will try and make me out to be a criminal based on my views on liberty.
    • Homeschooling -No kids, yet, but I intend to have my future children either homeschooled or enrolled in a private school.
    • Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties -Call me Jefferson
    • Belief in a New World Order conspiracy -No, let me rephrase, hell no! I'm not AJ. <No offense intended to those who answered yes to this or believe in some NWO>


    8/10? Ish... And I've joked with a friend who is a contractor for DHS that my name must come across his desk frequently due to me being on probably several lists.
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

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    Yet they still don't get it through their thick skulls that these groups aren't the extremists, the leftist govt is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    Yet they still don't get it through their thick skulls that these groups aren't the extremists, the leftist govt is.
    How are neo-Nazis and KKK groups not extremist? They are very dangerous groups.

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